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  • #31
    from Human Rights Campaign website:

    "The general argument of the ad is that the push for marriage equality isn’t just about rights for same-sex couples, it’s about imposing contrary values on people of faith. The examples they cite in the ad are:
    (1) A California doctor who must choose between her faith and her job
    (2) A member of New Jersey church group which is punished by the state because they can’t support same-sex marriage
    (3) A Massachusetts parent who stands by helpless while the state teaches her son that gay marriage is okay
    The facts indicate that (1) refers to the Benitez decision in California, determining that a doctor cannot violate California anti-discrimination law by refusing to treat a lesbian based on religious belief, (2) refers to the Ocean Grove, New Jersey Methodist pavilion that was open to the general public for events but refused access for civil union ceremonies (and was fined by the state for doing so) and (3) refers to the Parker decision in Massachusetts, where parents unsuccessfully sought to end public school discussions of family diversity, including of same-sex couples.

    All three examples involve religious people who enter the public sphere, but don’t want to abide by the general non-discriminatory rules everyone else does. Both (1) and (2) are really about state laws against sexual orientation discrimination, rather than specifically about marriage. And (3) is about two pairs of religious parents trying to impose their beliefs on all children in public schools.

    The real facts of each case are:

    The California doctor entered a profession that promises to “first, do no harm” and the law requires her to treat a patient in need – gay or straight, Christian or Muslim – regardless of her religious beliefs. The law does not, and cannot, dictate her faith – it can only insist that she follow her oath as a medical professional.
    The New Jersey church group runs, and profits from, a beachside pavilion that it rents out to the general public for all manner of occasions –concerts, debates and even Civil War reenactments— but balks at permitting couples to hold civil union ceremonies there. The law does not challenge the church organization’s beliefs about homosexuality – it merely requires that a pavilion that had been open to all for years comply with laws protecting everyone from discrimination, including gays and lesbians.
    The Massachusetts parent disagrees with an aspect of her son’s public education, a discussion of the many different kinds of families he will likely encounter in life, including gay and lesbian couples. The law does not stop her from disagreeing, from teaching him consistently with her differing beliefs at home, or even educating her child in a setting that is more in line with her faith traditions. But it does not allow any one parent to dictate the curriculum for all students based on her family’s religious traditions."
    Facts versus Lies
    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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    • #32
      I am quite baffled how a doctor would be forced to choose between her faith and her job if gays could marry.
      "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
      "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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      • #33
        There's plenty of other things that don't make sense either, Guy.
        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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        • #34
          Doctors have to be involved in producing their synthetic babies since gay men cannot produce offspring. The fear is that eventually doctors will have to participate in that, much like they must perform abortions, stem cell research, rectal exams & executions.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Patroklos View Post
            Its an anomination in the eyes of most people
            "I would like to accept this anomination on behalf of our good friend Patroklos..."
            "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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            • #36
              Colbert on the ad:

              "I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Asher View Post
                Unfortunately, they breed.
                So what? Dumbening effect aside, the percentage of their offspring that will be born gay remains the same.
                Unbelievable!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Thue View Post
                  http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/18.html#22
                  Or
                  “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.


                  Seems pretty unambiguous. If you accept arbitrary rules just because they are in the bible then there are long lists of other ridiculous rules you have to accept as well, obviously.

                  Whatever interpretations you might make of those, in any event it appears lesbians is coo, thank god.
                  Unbelievable!

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