Circumcision Just Keeps Getting Better!!!

[Dr Strangelove]

I thought that mimsy was a stuffed rabbit doll?

[Alinestra Covelia]

A sad day for meat lovers.

Wait, why? How does my vagitarianism affect meat lovers?

Surely that should read "a sad day for meat packers"?

[Alinestra Covelia]

I thought that mimsy was a stuffed rabbit doll?

I though all mimsies were borogoves.

[Darius871]

Answer me this then hotshot: if ejaculation is purely a reflex, why is it that 15 year olds having sex for the first time last seconds while a year later they can go on for much, much longer?

... You act like it's this thing that's completely out of someone's control, when it is not.

... You act like as soon as you start having sex it's an unstoppable train that'll happen at a specific time regardless of what you do.

Answer me this then hotshot: when the hell did I say anything about "purely a reflex"? Which part of "mostly autonomous stimulus-reflex arc" don't you understand? "Mostly autonomous" implies that it's subject to some level of control, but not total control for an infinite period of time, as your dictionary will tell you.

For a crude example, if a doctor tries tapping the patellar tendon below your knee, you might be able to barely hold back the reflex by consciously flexing your hamstrings ahead of time to pre-emptively counteract your quadriceps' inevitable contraction. Therefore that reflex wouldn't be "purely" autonomous like intestinal peristalsis since you can counteract it to some extent, but it's still not under total control either, or else it wouldn't be a reflex by definition.

It's absolutely possible, you obviously just don't know how.

Dude, have you ever had sex?

As somebody who has actually had sex, I'm telling you... that

I don't know why you continue to predictably insist on making this about me when our experiences are totally irrelevant to documented science on which any cursory google search on "ejaculatory reflex" can fully educate you, but I'll bite on the blatant troll just for fun. In all honesty after enough practice the vast majority of my [non-drunk] few dozen sessions in the past half-decade were well in the ballpark of 20-30 minutes before just bailing more because of blueballs/soreness than actually losing control, and a few other times because the ladyfriend came early and didn't appear to be very into continuing after that point, but I'm still honest enough to acknowledge from experience the simple syllogism that greater sensitivity = lesser control, even if one's level of control is generally above average. If you're too insecure to admit that, well, it says more about you than it does about me.

The point of contention which you do not seem to comprehend is one has control over when it is triggered.

The word "trigger" is not used to mean a muscular contraction; it is a stimulus of sensory nerves in the shaft, which is transmitted through the sacral reflex arc to the lower spinal cord and immediately sent back to the prostate area where ejaculation begins, along with a measurably slower message up to the brain for processing and response. That's how a reflex arc works, by definition. The "control" you exercise is not over whether the trigger occurs (except perhaps by briefly decreasing stimulation and then returning, a common technique you apparently find unnecessary), but rather over the reflexive reaction to that trigger through conscious muscular contractions aimed at counteracting fluid pressure. You cannot shut down the "trigger" itself, absent a local anesthetic perhaps.

[Velociryx]

Wait, why? How does my vagitarianism affect meat lovers?

Surely that should read "a sad day for meat packers"?

They were all just secretly hoping they'd get lucky.

-=Vel=-

[Alinestra Covelia]

But "meat lovers" are heterosexual women and homosexual men.

Neither of which I would have any interest in, either as a gay woman or a straight woman...

:cunfused:

[Velociryx]

I think it was simply a case of misspeaking tho.

-=Vel=-

[Asher]

Answer me this then hotshot: when the hell did I say anything about "purely a reflex"? Which part of "mostly autonomous stimulus-reflex arc" don't you understand? "Mostly autonomous" implies that it's subject to some level of control, but not total control for an infinite period of time, as your dictionary will tell you.

Because if you're saying a person has control over when ejaculation happens, then you're admitting defeat in this argument because that is exactly my point.

Ejaculation is binary...it happens or it doesn't. If a person has any degree of control in it, they can control how long they last if they know how and condition themselves.

[Darius871]

Because if you're saying a person has control over when ejaculation happens, then you're admitting defeat in this argument because that is exactly my point.

Ejaculation is binary...it happens or it doesn't. If a person has any degree of control in it, they can control how long they last if they know how and condition themselves.

No. That's precisely what you're not getting and precisely why this argument won't get anywhere. Granted, whether or not one ejaculates is "binary," and I never disputed that. The possible number of maximum durations that could possibly occur in any given sexual encounter, however, ranges anywhere from seconds to hours, and is therefore not binary. Which of those numerous possibilities eventually materializes depends on a multiplicity of factors, of which mental control and degree of stimulation are the most significant, but neither is 100% determinative. I never said stimulation is 100% determinative, but rather that it is an important factor in the complex equation of variables that determine a given duration, which on its face does not "admit" your point that mental control is 100% determinative. I can't boil the point of contention down to simpler terms than that.

[MOBIUS]

Darius...


Asher is obviously speaking from experience and yet you still try and insist that he is wrong. It is relatively easy to increase your performance times through technique - these are in no way out of your control as you seem to believe. Frankly your attempts to justify hardly feeling anything as being able to last longer is one of the saddest things I've heard...


You are either:


A) A virgin

B) Seriously sexually inexperienced

C) Ignorant

D) A moron


Solution: Don't change! Your hideous lack of knowledge and excuses why self-mutilation is hilarious and I have been enjoying reading your innocently ignorant posts up till now. Please don't stop.

Whereas Doc seems to have lost the plot entirely - which is equally entertaining...

[Naked Gents Rut]

Anyone who thinks they have total control over their climax has obviously never had sex with a skilled partner. We need to find Asher a power bottom...

[Darius871]

It is relatively easy to increase your performance times through technique - these are in no way out of your control as you seem to believe.

SHOW ME WHERE I EVER DENIED THIS. You'll find that I never did. In fact, in my most recent post I condeded precisely that, only with one caveat. But just to get it through your thick skull, I'll be redundant:

1) Is it "relatively easy to increase your performance times through technique?" YES.

2) Are performance times "out of your control"? NO.

3) Notwithstanding the above, is technique nonetheless only one of numerous factors (also including, but not limited to, level of sensitivity, skill of your partner, attractiveness of your partner, influence of alcohol, influence of... "other substances," sleep deprivation, level of lubrication, temperature, setting, distractions, etc. etc. etc.) in the equation that determines duration? YES.

You'll note that #1-2 are not logically inconsistent with #3. I don't know how many times I have to say it to pound it into your brain with a sledgehammer. Saying control is one of multiple factors doesn't deny that you can attain a huge degree of control. Should I get out some sock puppets?

You are either:


A) A virgin

B) Seriously sexually inexperienced

This pathetically predictable troll has already been answered above. I'm probably more experienced than even you, boy.

[KrazyHorse]

Damnit. I can't believe I haven't been reading this thread.

[Darius871]

Anyone who thinks they have total control over their climax has obviously never had sex with a skilled partner. We need to find Asher a power bottom...

QFT. That'd be factor #3, and it's a big one. Add to skill of your partner your technique, level of sensitivity, attractiveness of your partner, influence of alcohol, influence of... "other substances," sleep deprivation, level of lubrication, temperature, setting, distractions, etc. etc. etc. and you've got yourself one giant cluster**** of factors in which technique takes a predominant, but nonetheless not 100% determinative, role.

But I'm sure another idiot will come along and tell me I'm telling them that sensitivity is 100% determinative, even though I've said the exact opposite over and over and over again. What a shock that some people at Poly can't read words right in front of their ****ing faces!

Maybe there's just something about bungholes that gets people off less, but I wouldn't know. Surely MOBIUS can enlighten us on his rectal escapades.

[MOBIUS]

Damnit. I can't believe I haven't been reading this thread.

It's pure comedy gold!

The circumcised posters are in full retreat - or would be if they had anything left to 'pull back'...