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    A little more than two years after his release from the Guantanamo Bay military prison, Abdallah Saleh al-Ajmi knelt in front of a white wall, clutched the upturned barrel of an AK-47 rifle and delivered a message before a video camera.


    From Captive To Suicide Bomber

    Accused of Being Little More Than a Low-Level Taliban Fighter, Abdallah al-Ajmi Was Held by the U.S. for Nearly Four Years. After His Release, He Blew Up an Iraqi Army Outpost. Did Guantanamo Propel Him to Do It?
    1) Would you expect the high-level fighters to be the suicide bombers? They didn't exactly reach their ranks by killing themselves.

    2) So let's accept the article's thesis, that being in Gitmo 4 years made him a suicide bomber. Doesn't this imply that we should keep all of the people in Gitmo locked up because at this point, they're definitely a threat if released? Nowhere in the article do they examine this.

    To be fair, some of the things we did strike me as even stupider than the article. Consider:

    Ajmi's days mainly consisted of sitting in his cell. For his first few years there, detainees had no access to reading material -- save for copies of the Koran.

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    Didn't WaPo got caught repeatedly from staged photographs around 2 years ago and nobody cared?

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    • #3
      Do you ever actually comprehend things you read, Kuci?

      Accused of Being Little More Than a Low-Level Taliban Fighter, Abdallah al-Ajmi Was Held by the U.S. for Nearly Four Years. After His Release, He Blew Up an Iraqi Army Outpost. Did Guantanamo Propel Him to Do It?
      To which you responded:

      1) Would you expect the high-level fighters to be the suicide bombers? They didn't exactly reach their ranks by killing themselves.
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      • #4
        Yes?

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        • #5
          Sloww is just... well... slow.

          And yeah, we probably should've given the detainees all the Nietzsche, Rushdie and Dawkins they could read.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by VJ View Post
            Didn't WaPo got caught repeatedly from staged photographs around 2 years ago and nobody cared?

            http://www.rekisteri.info/95/
            That is bull****, you can die with your knees bent.

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            • #7
              So why do you read the Washington Post then, Kuci?
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              • #8
                Accused of Being Little More Than a Low-Level Taliban Fighter
                Anybody else see the word "accused" in that sentence, not "proven" just "accused." Four years in a jail cell with no chance to be proven guilty or innocent. This might drive anyone buggy.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Zkribbler View Post
                  Anybody else see the word "accused" in that sentence, not "proven" just "accused." Four years in a jail cell with no chance to be proven guilty or innocent. This might drive anyone buggy.
                  When in history have enemy soldiers had the ability to prove thier innocence of the crime of being the enemy?
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                  • #10
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Zkribbler View Post
                      Anybody else see the word "accused" in that sentence, not "proven" just "accused." Four years in a jail cell with no chance to be proven guilty or innocent. This might drive anyone buggy.


                      Y'all are missing the point that this raises: regardless of whether they were dangerous when we picked them up, maybe they are dangerous now and just releasing them is a bad idea?

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                      • #12
                        And that somehow makes it morally acceptable to continue holding them?
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                        • #13
                          One out of how many was dangerous? And we certainly weren't doing the right things to determine whether someone was dangerous or not...

                          I would, by the way, be a fan of normal criminals having to stay in prison past their punishment time if they were ruled as still dangerous (for serious offenses).

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                          • #14
                            re:snoopy

                            Weigh the evil of holding them against the evil of releasing. If there's a substantial likelihood that the person will kill himself and a dozen other people if released, then yeah, it is morally acceptable.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
                              One out of how many was dangerous?
                              This guy isn't the only one who's been released only to commit terrorist attacks. There've been a few other stories in the past month.

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