Unix nerds unite!

[BlackCat]

The fact that you think I'm just referring to a text editor says it all.

The fact that you can't imagine the implicit says all

Tools like VS is quite good, but it can't replace what is sitting 40 cm from the screen (I've a couple of years ago "inherited" some code made in VB6, and while she certainly had used the tool, she certainly also hadn't used her brain - it was a pain in the ass to refacture the mess).

[BlackCat]

If you are a fan of vi-style editing, use ViEmu in Studio. Works like a charm.

I'm not a fan of vi, just happens to have used it for some 20 years, so I have it seriously on my backbone - though, I occasionally has to fight with windows, so I'll look into that - thanks

[Asher]

The fact that you can't imagine the implicit says all

Tools like VS is quite good, but it can't replace what is sitting 40 cm from the screen (I've a couple of years ago "inherited" some code made in VB6, and while she certainly had used the tool, she certainly also hadn't used her brain - it was a pain in the ass to refacture the mess).

VS tools aren't meant to REPLACE the users, it's meant to ENABLE the users to be more productive.

One-click/keystroke refactorings (eg, extract an interface) are insane timesavers, especially in test-driven development. Things like visual remote debugging with the immediate window is crazy. WCF makes networking insanely easy and powerful. WPF can do amazing things with little effort. All that stuff...

[BlackCat]

VS tools aren't meant to REPLACE the users, it's meant to ENABLE the users to be more productive.

One-click/keystroke refactorings (eg, extract an interface) are insane timesavers, especially in test-driven development. Things like visual remote debugging with the immediate window is crazy. WCF makes networking insanely easy and powerful. WPF can do amazing things with little effort. All that stuff...

Quite right, but unfortunatedly, it also allows people that should have been dragged out into the courtyard and been shot, to write programs that never should have been made

[Solomwi]

One-click/keystroke refactorings (eg, extract an interface) are insane timesavers, especially in test-driven development. Things like visual remote debugging with the immediate window is crazy. WCF makes networking insanely easy and powerful. WPF can do amazing things with little effort. All that stuff...

Sounds like you're doing a TV ad for used cars.

[Asher]

Sounds like you're doing a TV ad for used cars.

There's a reason why .NET went from nothing to insanely pervasive in a very short time.

[Solomwi]

There's a reason why .NET went from nothing to insanely pervasive in a very short time.

Because they were "PRACTICALLY GIVING IT AWAY" at prices "SO LOW WE MUST BE KAH-RAZY"?

[Kuciwalker]

Uh, .NET and all of its alternatives are free.

[Victor Galis]

It's simple. If you call some kernel "the kernel", that shows an almost religion-like attitude. And which OS has the most religiously zealous users? Linux, of course Hence, my language is correct

I suspect Apple's OS has more religious followers.

You are madmen both of you - nothing beats vi

Except maybe EMACS, pico, and quite possibly writing directly to a file from the command line.

[onodera]

Asher, do you use Resharper or Coderush or do you ride VS bareback?

[BlackCat]

Except maybe EMACS, pico, and quite possibly writing directly to a file from the command line.

Why not just let the compiler read stdin ?

[snoopy369]

I suspect Apple's OS has more religious followers.

You've never heard Linux geeks have a religious war over their kernel versions, have you. Apple's followers are cultists; Linux is a religion, complete with sects, heresies, and dogmas...

[Asher]

Asher, do you use Resharper or Coderush or do you ride VS bareback?

I use Resharper, even though it takes up insane amounts of memory...

[Solver]

Resharper + Visual Assist + VisualSVN

[Asher]

Aren't Visual Assist and Resharper kind of redundant?

What does VA do for you that Resharper doesn't?