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  • #76
    I largely agree with Ali, but personally am more amenable to the "put their own wellbeing on the same level, if not better than, your own" part.

    A major part of our indecision is that we have a very high standard for "good parent." If we don't think we can meet that standard, it's a no-go. There are enough bad parents in this world.

    -Arrian
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Arrian View Post
      A major part of our indecision is that we have a very high standard for "good parent." If we don't think we can meet that standard, it's a no-go. There are enough bad parents in this world.
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      • #78
        To clarify, I voted "no" but I will admit I was sorely tempted by the big juicy bananas option.

        ...

        I also deny that I am self biased's DL.
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        • #79
          Originally posted by Arrian View Post
          A major part of our indecision is that we have a very high standard for "good parent." If we don't think we can meet that standard, it's a no-go. There are enough bad parents in this world.


          Indeed.
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          • #80
            Of course you realize this just means that the people with high standards for parenthood then turn out much less likely to have kids.

            Darwin is against them.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia View Post
              Of course you realize this just means that the people with high standards for parenthood then turn out much less likely to have kids.

              Darwin is against them.

              Believe me, I've thought it through. I've been there. But if I'm going to worry about the greater good, then I pretty much have to adopt. I've had the experience of adopting 2 dogs. Since adopting a child is an order of magnitude more difficult, um, pass.

              -Arrian
              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Arrian View Post
                A major part of our indecision is that we have a very high standard for "good parent." If we don't think we can meet that standard, it's a no-go. There are enough bad parents in this world.

                -Arrian
                The fact that you have this level of concern answers your question IMO.
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                • #83
                  I've had that thought too, Cali.

                  Our feelings aren't set in stone... they've been moving. Moving in the direction of having a kid.

                  To clarify, we have very little doubt that we CAN be good parents. We just want to be as sure as we can be ahead of time (=! totally sure) that we WILL be good parents. You know?

                  We very well may have over-thought this, but that's us.

                  -Arrian
                  Last edited by Arrian; February 13, 2009, 14:51.
                  grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                  The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                  • #84
                    Parenting isn't the proverbial "rocket science", so don't agonize too much over your ability to be a good parent. You'll learn as you go along for the most part.
                    ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                    ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Arrian View Post
                      I've had that thought too, Cali.

                      -Arrian
                      My son is a very good boy. He gets straight A's and is very respectfull. People ask me how I raised him that way. I really didn't raise him any particular way. IMO, I'm not a special parent. All I can say is that I love him, and I treat him accordingly.

                      So you don't really have to be a good parent to raise good kids although you shouldn't be a selfish jerk.
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                      • #86
                        I DanSed you. It's not so much the "how to" part that is the issue. We're fine with picking that up as we go. We'll do fine... if we really WANT to. And we're in this place right now we feel some emotional pull to do it (more than we did, say, a year ago), but it hasn't hit the level of wanting to so clearly that we're sure. If our feelings keep moving in the same direction, we will go for it. If they don't, and we're still sorta not sure, then that's a no.

                        -Arrian
                        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia View Post
                          Of course you realize this just means that the people with high standards for parenthood then turn out much less likely to have kids.

                          Darwin is against them.

                          See, you are a lot more reasonable than those looking for an excuse.

                          JM
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                            My son is a very good boy. He gets straight A's and is very respectfull. People ask me how I raised him that way. I really didn't raise him any particular way. IMO, I'm not a special parent. All I can say is that I love him, and I treat him accordingly.

                            So you don't really have to be a good parent to raise good kids although you shouldn't be a selfish jerk.
                            I think I generally agree, although there are certain things you must be competent at. In general, though, you just have to be a good example and a nice person... and realize that your kid will grow up to be his/her own person, and not be too pushy about what person, precisely that is. Pick the important things (like, honesty, integrity, generosity) and don't worry about what music they play or who they hang out with, with few exceptions.

                            That's how I intend to be, anyhow... I'll get back to you in a few decades with the results
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by snoopy369 View Post
                              I think I generally agree, although there are certain things you must be competent at. In general, though, you just have to be a good example and a nice person... and realize that your kid will grow up to be his/her own person, and not be too pushy about what person, precisely that is. Pick the important things (like, honesty, integrity, generosity) and don't worry about what music they play or who they hang out with, with few exceptions.

                              That's how I intend to be, anyhow... I'll get back to you in a few decades with the results
                              Mostly you can't drink, run around and party very much, which is where most people **** up.
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                              • #90
                                Yes, I have been blessed with a good daughter. I don't think we did anything that special except treat her with respect and let her know how much we loved her and supported her. She generally makes good decisions so it's hard to give her a hard time when the rare occasion that she didn't. Now that she's 21, there's little we can do. And actually that's been the case for at least the last 3 or 4 years.

                                I read about all those kids that hate their parents and don't even talk to them. I think that's sad and I pray that it never happens to us. (actually it just takes effort and not prayers)
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