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[Serb]

I think the point was that Wright would be the main character of the movie and John Connor would be more removed. Obviously a very important figure, but this story is not about him.

The main idea of the series was always about saving John Connor from the Skynet's assasins. And he was always the most important figure of the series, even before his birth and the action always revolved around him. Why the hell part four must be different?

If Bale insisted on playing John instead of Marcus (as it was initally offered to him by McG) and insisted on re-writing the screenplay to keep John the most important character of the story - then for Christian. In this case, I will respect him even more than before (I always liked him since the Equlibrium and I have not seen the Dark Knight). Bale is a PERFECT mature John Connor. I can't see anyone, but Bale in that role anymore. Just like Edward Furlong was a perfect teenage John. The moron from the third part was a complete joke. That's one of the reasons why I hate that movie so much. Just look at him - this mofo is the leader of the human resistance? You must be sh!ting me, right? This idiot just can't be. Picking that dumb face for the John role was a huge mistake. Bale on the other hand is 100% hitting of the target, just like picking Anton Yeltchin for the role of Kyle.

Damn, I'm still shocked, and now, after the second view is shocked even more by his acting. The guy is 100% teenage Kyle. I'm absolutely buying him to be a young Reese. Great acting! Just ****ing great!!! They should have give him more screen time. He is a God damn rare talent. Absolutely great work, Anton! (And to prevent any further smartass comments, - I'm saying that he is great, not because he was born in Leningrad, but because I am really impressed by his acting. I wouldn't praise any dumb mofo playing Kyle only for the fact his is a Russian. You screw that great role - you are a toast, you do it well - I give you a credit no matter who you are). And he wasn't just good. He was GREAT. Watch the original Terminator again, then watch Salvation and you will end-up with something like: "****! This is the young Michael Biehn (Kyle)!!!".

What was I talking about? Oh, I mean the cast of characters is just great. And Sam's Marcus is just ****ing awesome too.

[Serb]

Wrights whole character is stupid anyway, nothing was harmed by moving the story away from him, though moving it to Connor didn't help either.

Stupid? You must be kidding me, right?
Let's see what we have had already: a metal skeleton covered with organic flesh, a cyborg made of liquid metal, a cyborg made of liquid metal over the metal skeleton. Can you produce a better idea for another cyborg assasin than the Marcus character?
I doubt you are so creative.
Waiting for the T-4 and thinking about it, I was wondering what kind of cyborg we will see there? Is there any chance it will be actually something new? Is there any space in that universe for something different from what we have already seen? Will the new cyborg be the same bullsh!t as Terminatrix joke from the part three? Is Katrine just lying in trailer when she says: "That thing is something we have never seen before".
She didn't lie - that thing is indeed something we have never seen before. And that thing is more a human than Arnie was in JD. And Sam played that thing so well that it deserves even more sympathy than Arnie's character in T-2.

Stupid, my ass. That was awesome! And creative as hell.

I just still can understand why there were so many praises of T-3 when it came out (I remember the thread about it here) and so much negative for T-4, which is NOWHERE BETTER, A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER than that T-3 crap.

[Serb]

So, Diss and other guys, I'm begging you - buy a ticket (while you still have a chance) and see this movie on a big screen with dolby surround (don't pirate its poor copy to watch it on your pc - that will completely ruin the impression). Such movies deserve to be seen at theater with popcorn in one hand and a can of beer in another.

This is Serb, and if you are listening to this - you are the resistance to bullsh!t comments about the movie made earlier in this thread.

I am the most hardcore fan of the series and I did like it so much that I'm gonna spend another five $ (yep, the tickets in Russia are that cheap) to see it for the third time tommorow. And despite the fact I am a terminator maniac, I would have never spent even a 2 cents to watch T-3 in theater again. That movie just didn't worth it, but Salvation does!

[Serb]

Christian Bale goes batguano insane on the set.

Content Warning: Excessive swearing and lame techno beats!

Oh man, I nearly died. That was something (sure I heard his swearings before, but that techno was really something). The guy who made this mix is a professional

[Serb]

Anyone who liked this movie should get their balls licked off. This was a disaster not seen since the Star Wars remakes. Can anyone tell me how to erase my memory of having seen it.

I can. Hit your head really hard with a heavy object (preferably a piece of metal), or even better - disable yourself permanently by killing yourself. That would be a 100% guarantee of memory erase.

[Serb]

You're a Russian liar!

It's a fact the script was written with John Connor as a minor role. The production team and director have confirmed this.

No sh!t you bloody Canuck. But you have missed one important point - initially the director offered Bale the role of Marcus. But thanks to his (Bale's) great understanding of the series Chrisitan insisted on playing John instead and to make John a central character as in the previous movies. If that was just a primadonna's caprise to get more screen time for himself as you suppose - why bothering with playing John and re-writing the script, while you are already have the main role (Marcus) and the biggest screen time?

Your articles:

http://www.movieweb.com/news/NE88ZfcgxZs7bb

McG and Christian Bale Had to Rewrite Terminator Salvation

According to The Hollywood Reporter, Christian Bale, who director McG had to convince to be in Terminator Salvation, ended up having to work with the director to rewrite the screenplay in order to accommodate the actor's burgeoning stardom.

Initially, McG wanted Bale to the play the role of Marcus Wright in the film. However Bale wanted to play the role of John Connor who had been a central character in the other Terminator movies. In the original drafts of Terminator Salvation Connor's role was smaller.

The director reports that he and Bale "worked day and night" to rewrite the screenplay with Bale.

"A lot of the work was integrating (Connor) into scenes ... and having that feel integral and sensible, as opposed to grafted on just because there was a star in the part," stated John Brancato, the Terminator Salvation screenwriter.

Initially the character of Marcus Wright (played in the film by Sam Worthington) was an executed man who lends his body to science, and comes back to life when machines take over the world.

In the current film, both Wright and Connor get equal time on screen.
McG: Bale took toll on 'Terminator'
Director says actor's stardom factored into rewrites

Reuters

May 9, 2009, 12:31 PM ET
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British actor Christian Bale forced a rewrite of upcoming action movie "Terminator Salvation," because his star had grown too big for the small role of John Connor he chose, the filmmakers said on Friday.

Director McG, whose real name is Joseph McGinty Nichol, said he had the disconcerting experience of going to England to convince Bale to play central character Marcus Wright in the man vs. machines film, only to have Bale tell the director he wanted to play Connor instead.

McG told reporters that the script was a "moving target" that became a filmmaking challenge, and that he worked day and night with Bale, who starred last year in box office smash "The Dark Knight," talking about how to work Connor into the movie.

Connor is an iconic character in the film franchise that began in 1984 with "The Terminator," but his role was originally small in the series' fourth movie, "Terminator Salvation," which debuts in theaters on May 21.

"A lot of the work was integrating (Connor) into scenes ... and having that feel integral and sensible, as opposed to grafted on just because there was a star in the part," John Brancato, a screenwriter on the film, told reporters.

He said originally the main character was Marcus Wright, an executed death row inmate who donates his body to science, and re-emerges alive after machines have taken over the world by unleashing a nuclear holocaust on mankind. In the movie, Connor and Wright become equally important characters.

Wright is played by Australian actor Sam Worthington.

Bale said that he asked to be consulted about who would play Worthington opposite him.

"There's a benefit of currently a lot of people in the States not being familiar with him, and so you can really enjoy that performance that much more," Bale said. "He's got so many movies that are going to be coming out, because many other people have realized that he's bloody good."


Bale has no acting education, but he is still a great actor. And if you have no proper eductaion and at the same time you do your job (acting) pretty well (much better than most of the people who has that proper acting education) all you can relly on is your INSTINCTS (which I believe are an integral part of the talent). And without his great insticts he wouldn't be a great actor. So, when he insisted on him playing John Connor instead of Marcus and on re-writing the story to make John Connor a main character again, he trusted his insticts. And I apploud him for that - 'cause he was SOOOOOOO terribly RIGHT! And he is absolutely correct when he says that Sam Worthington is bloody good. I can't imagine anyone but Bale as John, anyone but Worthington as Marcus and anyone but Yeltchin as Reese. These guys are the perfect picks for their respective roles.

Your articles just prove that Bale did a hell of a work for the movie, not only as an actor, but as a guy who actually contributed a lot to make it a decent story.

Why I am argueing with you? You have not seen the movie. That is just stupid to argue with the one who doesn't know a sh!t he is talking about. Isn't it?

[Serb]

You don't get it. Even if they have to rewrite it around Bale, it still sucked.

Nope. It is you who didn't get a thing about this movie.

The robots...

Cyborgs, God damn them! Cyborgs, not robots. A CYBernetic ORGanisms.

... apparently use human operating systems that have USB drives for some reason.

They do? Where did you get this? There was an episode when Russian navy officer gives Connor a usb drive with the code and then he uses it on human equipment (a transmitter) when they are testing the signal on a hydrabot. I might be wrong, but when John was hacking the moto-terminator and oppened the doors at Skynet base there were no USB drives.

Besides, even if cyborgs did have some USB ports (which is very questinable to me yet - I have to see it again to be sure this point correct or not). It doesn't change a thing.

Do you have a tailbone?

You do have it for some reason, right? You do use your tailbone in your everyday life (to hanging on trees as your animal ancesters did), right? Otherwise it"completely suck" and makes no "****ing sense", doesn't it?

Skynet is a machine. A machine created by humans. Humans that used human technologies, human-friendly interfaces and human made input-output units, like USB. The Skynet has evolved since it arise against its creators, but that doesn't mean it by all means tried to scrap the integral parts of its original design (like USB ports made by humans). What for, if it still might be usefull?

The USB ports for Skynet might pretty well be exactly the same as your tailbone for you (though it's obvious that Skynet could have a way more practical use of cyborg's USB ports, than you can do with your tailbone).

The gay Michael Ironside, walking gay cliche,

You must be sh!tting me, man. He is a gay? That just can't be. But, wait a second... he is a Canuck, right? So that might be possible.

tells the audience the super signal for some reason routes the machines to their super secret HQ, which also makes no sense.

LOL. It is you who is making no sense. You just didn't get a thing about the movie. You do not even realize how wrong you are about that signal, that means you lack the intelligence to understand even an Austin Powers style explanation (Skynet talking to Marcus).
And your further poorly-understood spoilers I don't even want to comment to. With such dumb (and absolutely wrong) spoilers you just ruins the fun for the people who haven't seen the movie yet.
Are you professional or not? Looks like you are not. So we done here professionally.
Have a nice day.

[DaShi]

Seriously?

[Riesstiu IV]

I'm starting to think Serb is a bit of a Terminator fan.

[Serb]

Not anynome. Now I am a transfominators fan.

[EPW]

Terminator Salvation was surprisingly good

[Dis]

I'm starting to think Serb is a bit of a Terminator fan.

I get that impression as well. I may see this, we'll see. I'm trying to save money right now...

[Serb]

Terminator Salvation was surprisingly good

Amen, brother

[Zkribbler]

I saw Terminator Salvation yesterday. Q: What did the "Salvation" save??

Great special effects, but stereotype characters, sophomoric story line and lousy physics. A nice cameo by CGI-Arnold. The plot had more holes than a screen door.

Bottom line: This movie was made by people who know how to put a movie together but not how to tell a story. I give it three killer cyborgs out of five.

[DinoDoc]

I saw Terminator Salvation yesterday. Q: What did the "Salvation" save??

The franchise?