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Hey... stop with the personal crap. Discuss the topic and NOT the posters.
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Keep on Civin'
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Out of that list the only things that seems objectionable are Amtrak and the NEA.
You really think global warming research and carbon capture demonstrations are good ways to stimulate the economy in a timely fashion? Funneling money to Amtrak, as badly run as it is, would probably lead to a greater reduction in unemployment and a greater increase in aggregate demand...
I support family planning programs but I disagreed with including such funding for programs in an economic stimulus package.
MrFun is approaching this problem in the right fashion. The question we should be asking isn't whether a certain program is objectionable or not, but whether it has any realistic chance of providing economic stimulus in a timely fashion. If a program doesn't clear this hurdle, then it shouldn't be included in the stimulus package.Comment
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Exactly! It just does not make any sense to me to try and tie family planning programs with economic stimulus bills. Only thing I can think of is that Pelosi and others on her side are trying to get this through because they know that such family planning bills are more controversial. Just stick in a bill that's much more important and urgent and see it pass.Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut View PostA lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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Only thing I can think of is that Pelosi and others on her side are trying to get this through because they know that such family planning bills are more controversial. Just stick in a bill that's much more important and urgent and see it pass.
Bingo. They're trying to use the economic situation as cover to push through a bunch of pork and rewards to Democratic special interests that would be much harder to gain approval for on their own merits.Comment
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Would I be wrong in hoping for a Senate filibuster based on this given how well the House Republicans held together? Such an action might actually force the creation of a stimulus bill rather than a Christmas tree for liberal causes.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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I'm just grateful for the consistency of posting there is now as there was when Bush was prez and the repubilicans ran congress.
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"Comment
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
Do you have any idea how valuable those home born babies are? WTF countries over here are literally going bankrupt because of aging populations.
If local goverment has problems meeting their needs then the laws should be changed so the federal goverment helps them out.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Or they could simply, say, balance their budgets?"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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Dp"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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Not all home born babies are necessarily of equal [average, economic] value.Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
Do you have any idea how valuable those home born babies are? WTF countries over here are literally going bankrupt because of aging populations.Comment
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But the average adult home born USAian is probably of greater economical value than the average Mexican immigrant.Originally posted by Kuciwalker View PostModern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut View Post
I expect to see you express the same concern about Republican special interests and pork when they arise.
A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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I'm not aware that NGR is a Republican, even though obviously his good sense puts him in the prime GOP demographic.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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It should also include a consideration of whether the spending can be dropped when the economy rebounds. Some of the spending in the bill falls short in this respect. Rather, it just increases the long-term recurring obligations of the government.Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut View PostI came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I expect to see you express the same concern about Republican special interests and pork when they arise.
I did. Bush's Medicare expansion was a fiscal disaster and people like Ted Stevens are a disgrace. I might be a little more worked up about this stimulus bill, however, since you're unlikely to see this much pork in one bill for the rest of your life.
It should also include a consideration of whether the spending can be dropped when the economy rebounds. Some of the spending in the bill falls short in this respect. Rather, it just increases the long-term recurring obligations of the government.
I agree completely. The stimulus should based around temporary or one-time obligations.Comment
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