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    Madam Speaker Nancy Pelosi on birth-control funding as part of the $825 billion stimulus package: "Well, the family planning services reduce cost. They reduce cost. The states are in terrible fiscal budget crises now and part of what we do for children's health, education and some of those elements are to help the states meet their financial needs. One of those - one of the initiatives you mentioned, the contraception, will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government."

    Me: This is wrong on so many levels, one of which is looking at children born to the "wrong people" as economic burdens rather gifts, the music makers, the dreamers of dreams. She sees them as a cost instead of blessed benefits. Wow. Maby this purely economic argument from the book Empty Cradle by Phil Longman will sway her:

    Population aging also depresses the growth of government revenues. Population growth is a major source of economic growth: more people create more demand for the products capitalists sell, and more supply of the labor capitalists buy. Economists may be able to construct models of how economies could grow amid a shrinking population, but in the real world, it has never happened. A nation's GDP is literally the sum of its labor force times average output per worker. Thus a decline in the number of workers implies a decline in an economy's growth potential. When the size of the work force falls, economic growth can occur only if productivity increases enough to compensate.


    Can nothing be done to stop this massive and I do mean massive orgy of pork that would have made Dubya blush like a school girl blush? Are there any prospects for serious Republican opposition to this? I ask this given the opposition polling found among the American people toward the spate of nationalizations and drive toward socialism in the end of the Bush admin and the kicking they took in the election because this seems like an issue where they could find thier voice again and stand on what used to be thier principles.
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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    Way to find a tiny, tiny detail and to try to make political hay out of it.
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    • #3
      Obama agrees with the GOP.

      The Obama White House on Monday backed away from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s support for increased federal funding of contraception in the $825-billion stimulus bill now under consideration by Congress.

      That was not President Obama’s idea, a White House spokesman told CNSNews.com.

      “The principles of what he thought should be in the package--that wasn’t part of that,” White House Deputy Press Secretary Bill Burton told CNSNews.com. “They’re working on what the final bill should look like.”

      House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) was among the first to criticize the Democratic plan, specifically the provisions funding contraception.


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      • #4
        House Democrats appear likely to jettison family planning funds for the low-income from an $825 billion economic stimulus bill, officials said late Monday, following an appeal from President Barack Obama at a time the administration is courting Republican critics of the legislation.

        Several officials said a final decision was likely on Tuesday, coinciding with Obama's scheduled visit to the Capitol for separate meetings with House and Senate Republicans.

        The provision has emerged as a point of contention among Republicans, who criticize it as an example of wasteful spending that would neither create jobs nor otherwise improve the economy.


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        • #5
          $44 million for repairs at the Agriculture Department headquarters in Washington.

          $200 million to rehabilitate the National Mall.

          $360 million for new child care centers at military bases.

          $1.8 billion to repair National Park Service facilities.

          $276 million to update technology at the State Department.

          $500 million for the Transportation Security Administration to install bomb detectors at airports.

          $600 million for General Services Administration to replace older vehicles with alternative fuel vehicles.

          $2.5 billion to upgrade low-income housing.

          $400 million for NASA scientists to conduct climate change research.

          $426 million to construct facilities at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

          $800 million to clean up Superfund sites.

          $150 million for the Coast Guard to repair or remove bridges deemed a hazard to navigation.

          $6.7 billion to renovate and improve energy efficiency at federal buildings.

          $400 million to replace the Social Security Administration's 30-year-old National Computer Center.



          Any chance they'll jettison crap like this along with it?
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #6
            No. Getting the chance to borrow $800 billion to spend on your wishlist of pork projects is a once in a lifetime opportunity. As Rahm Emanuel said, never let a crisis go to waste.

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            • #7
              I have trouble seeing why something like

              $150 million for the Coast Guard to repair or remove bridges deemed a hazard to navigation.
              isn't appropriate for a fiscal stimulus package.

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              • #8
                Not everything on that list is necessarily inappropriate for a fiscal stimulus package. It really depends on whether the project can be carried out before the recession ends. It would also be nice to make sure that these projects are worthwhile based on a cost-benefit analysis.

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                • #9
                  I agree.

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                  • #10
                    That's no fun.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                      $44 million for repairs at the Agriculture Department headquarters in Washington.

                      $200 million to rehabilitate the National Mall.

                      $360 million for new child care centers at military bases.

                      $1.8 billion to repair National Park Service facilities.

                      $276 million to update technology at the State Department.

                      $500 million for the Transportation Security Administration to install bomb detectors at airports.

                      $600 million for General Services Administration to replace older vehicles with alternative fuel vehicles.

                      $2.5 billion to upgrade low-income housing.

                      $400 million for NASA scientists to conduct climate change research.

                      $426 million to construct facilities at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

                      $800 million to clean up Superfund sites.

                      $150 million for the Coast Guard to repair or remove bridges deemed a hazard to navigation.

                      $6.7 billion to renovate and improve energy efficiency at federal buildings.

                      $400 million to replace the Social Security Administration's 30-year-old National Computer Center.



                      Any chance they'll jettison crap like this along with it?
                      Those all look like shovel ready projects to me which will provided employment and provide a public service.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
                        I have trouble seeing why something like



                        isn't appropriate for a fiscal stimulus package.
                        OMG. Kuci and I agree.

                        Still it is needed workand will improve efficiency in trade by improving navigation on rivers & waterways.
                        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                        • #13
                          The Coast Guard repairing or removing "bridges deemed a hazard to navigation" seems pretty reasonable. There is an awful lot of pork though.
                          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut View Post
                            Not everything on that list is necessarily inappropriate for a fiscal stimulus package.
                            None of those projects actually do anything about the reason the economy is sluggish and the package as a whole seems to work out to around 100K$+ for each job it claims it to create or save which seems like a huge waste of resources. That's especially true given the fact that the unemployment rate they are seeking to save 2 perntage points from isn't that bad in the first place. History even seems to suggest that the plan being floated isn't the best way to grow the economy:
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • #15
                              Extending the Medicare family planning program would probably be pretty good stimulus. The problem is that it's politically harder to defend since so many Republicans have ****ed ideas about sex.
                              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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