Americans voted for Change

[Drake Tungsten]

He would be correct if he's pointing out that Plame was outed by Richard Armitage who, while technically a member of the Bush Administration, was on the outs and gave away Plame's identity due to carelessness and a desire to curry favor with members of the media rather than any desire to "**** on" her in retaliation for the actions of her and her husband.

I doubt that's what che meant, though.

[Darius871]

He would be correct if he's pointing out that Plame was outed by Richard Armitage who, while technically a member of the Bush Administration, was on the outs and gave away Plame's identity due to carelessness and a desire to curry favor with members of the media rather than any desire to "**** on" her in retaliation for the actions of her and her husband.

I doubt that's what che meant, though.

Well, if you believe McClellan, Bush admitted face to face that he gave the order. That's a big if though.

[Drake Tungsten]

He might have given the order for Libby to do it, but Armitage had already beaten Scooter to the punch.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Obama's first 100 days in the office

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4448750/Barack-Obamas-first-100-days.html

[Arrian]

There's no way he can prosecute the "torturers" without a CIA revolt. This was a smart move.

Smart, maybe. Gutless, though. But of course he's a politician.

-Arrian

[Patroklos]

Well obviously he'd have to cease renditions, along with any other stuff they could burn him with.

Ah, to be a dreamer...

[Ramo]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4950212.shtml

There would be zero public support for prosecuting folks following orders.

For truly skeezy **** Obama is engaging in, see the habeas corpus issues wrt Bagram.

[Dinner]

I understand why he did it but it is gutless. You can't say war crimes were committed, and Obama did, and then say no one should be punished for it.

[Ramo]

According to Feingold, he's not ruling out charges against those higher up the chain of command..

[Arrian]

I think this is a "make me do it" situation.

-Arrian

[DanS]

"We have been through a dark and painful chapter in our history," the president said.

I don't think it was so dark and painful, at least as far as the interrogations go. I think he's misreading the public's mood on harsh interrogations of terrorists.

[Thue]

I wish Bush was still President. He would have prosecuted the CIA interogators as war criminals:

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030323-1.html

Q Iraqi TV has shown what appear to be American POWs, and also what appear to be American dead. Your reaction?

THE PRESIDENT: I expect them to be treated, the POWs I expect to be treated humanely. And -- just like we're treating the prisoners that we have captured humanely. If not, the people who mistreat the prisoners will be treated as war criminals.

Ahem.

[Arrian]

I don't think it was so dark and painful, at least as far as the interrogations go.

Wow.

I think he's misreading the public's mood on harsh interrogations of terrorists.

Maybe. If enough of the public thinks like you, perhaps he has.

-Arrian

[Darius871]

Ah, to be a dreamer...

Hey now, I didn't say he would cease renditions, only that he would have to to avoid the problem in question. Odds are his closing Gitmo and banning a number of our harsher interrogation techniques will only increase use of rendition under Obama.

[DanS]

Maybe. If enough of the public thinks like you, perhaps he has.

I don't think you know what I think about the subject.