China confirms what we already knew.

[Winston]

Basically China pays lots and lots of people to surf the net and say nice things about the country and the communist party.

Don't tell me this couldn't happen in the U.S.

[^That's the proper way of doing it, folks.^ ]

[Dinner]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
Chinese food exports have a 99.3% acceptance rate by the West:

http://www.china-un.ch/eng/bjzl/t381573.htm

Paid by China.




BTW this figure is likely because we only test an extremely low portion. The key figure is how many of the test samples turn up red instead of how many containers go through without being tested. "9 out of 10 samples we took all said it was poison but they only sampled 0.1% so 99.9% of shipments are accepted!"

[Dinner]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
When is your check due, DC?

God damn it. Beaten by DinoDoc of all people.

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by notyoueither


I would not eat food from China if I were paid to do it.

Mmmm, General Tso's chicken.... kung pao chicken.... mmmm

[DarkCloud]

Note especially the Japan note:

For many years, over 99 percent of China's exported foodstuffs have been up to standard. In 2006 and the first half of 2007, China exported to the US some 94,000 batches and 55,000 batches of foodstuffs, respectively, and 752 batches and 477 batches of each were found by the US to be substandard, making the acceptance rate 99.2 percent and 99.1 percent, respectively. In the case of the EU, the figures were 91,000 batches and 62,000 batches, with 91 batches and 135 batches found by the EU to be substandard, making the acceptance rate 99.9 percent and 99.8 percent, respectively. On July 20, 2007, the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare of Japan, the largest importer of Chinese food, released an examination report on food imported from China in 2006, which showed that Japan conducted more sample surveys on Chinese food (15.7 percent) than on food from anywhere else, but Chinese food had the highest acceptance rate (99.42 percent), followed by that imported from the EU (99.38 percent) and the US (98.69 percent). The mainland of China is a major supplier of food for the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region. Two large food sample surveys conducted by Hong Kong's Food and Environmental Hygiene Department in the first half of 2007 showed that the acceptance rate stood at 99.2 percent and 99.6 percent, respectively.

DinoDoc- Don't be so narrow to think that all US food is appropriate or to buy into yellow peril news stories.

And I didn't start my statement with "but the us does" I stated China's foods had a 99% acceptance rating which is the same as the US.

US companies would not be purchasing from China if they knew they were poisoning people.

Read facts rather than assumptions based on product scandals. Too easily forgotten are the Mad Cow Disease scandals in America, and the Blue Ear Pig scandals, and pesticide over-use.

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I lived over a year in China and only got sick twice due to food. Once was as a result of fried chicken at #&#&#&#ing KFC. The other time likely was more due to dehydration than anything else, since it was over 95 fahrenheit and after eating dumplings at the 3rd dirtiest restaurant I ever attended in China, I walked around lost in a city for over 3 hours searching for my hotel... This was foolish. I could have taken a cab... But I had forgotten the name of my hotel and which street it was on, and I was lost in some other district and was a total cheapskate- I would ride buses in China before take cabs. That was exciting.

Notably in China, I went out of my way to eat dog (took some convincing to one waitress at a Korean restaurant, but I eventually got what I wanted. She thought I was a bit crazy and couldn't understand why a westerner would want dog.), chicken hearts, livers, kidneys, etc.

I also discovered that whereas I despise beer and generally dislike wine, I actually do enjoy the taste of Chinese liquor, baijiu (basically white lightning) which is stronger than Tequila or Whisky. It is described by other westerners as tasting like gasoline oil.

I did not eat fried or battered scorpions or drink the snake wine though. So while I may have eaten "locally" I did not eat adventurously. And to reiterate, I only confirmed was sick once, due to KFC- suffered an upset stomach for perhaps 8 hours; and then once again possibly due to dumplings, got lethargic and needed 10 hours of sleep that night. Beyond that, I was healthier than I've ever been in America. I had less allergies, and less problem with pollution than I did when I lived in European or American cities.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by DarkCloud

US companies would not be purchasing from China if they knew they were poisoning people.

"knew"? No, absolutely not.

They will take a chance on substandard goods however as the bottom line (thus far) favors it.

"quality" and "Chinese made" just don't go together.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
And I didn't start my statement with "but the us does" I stated China's foods had a 99% acceptance rating which is the same as the US.

We're discussing product safety in China and you are discussing the US and acting as if the problem isn't of any importance. That marks you as a schill. If you want to discuss food safety in the US as you seem to, start another thread and I'll happily join you there.

[DarkCloud]

You clearly aren't reading- I said 99% of Chinese exported food are safe which is higher than the % of US food that is safe exported to Japan.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
Chinese food exports have a 99.3% acceptance rate by the West:

Yes. Because imported foods are almost never tested by the U.S. Someday we will wise up.

[DarkCloud]

Did you read the bit about Japan-

>>Japan conducted more sample surveys on Chinese food (15.7 percent) than on food from anywhere else, but Chinese food had the highest acceptance rate (99.42 percent), followed by that imported from the EU (99.38 percent) and the US (98.69 percent).

Japan conducts a lot more tests than the US does; but even with the US testing less Chinese food products, the acceptance rates of exported foods are similar to those accepted by Japan.

Since the Japanese percentage of accepted foods is similar to that accepted by the US, the high percentage of high quality goods is not due to under-testing.

[Naked Gents Rut]

Thank you for introducing much-needed facts to this China-bashing session, DarkCloud.

[Sirotnikov]

Zkrib and Oerdin, it's enough to check only a tiny percentage to be quite sure that the chance for major deviation is incredibly small.

[Zkribbler]

Ex-Head of China FDA Sentenced To Death
Ruling Comes After Alarm Over Tainted Exports

By Edward Cody
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, May 30, 2007

BEIJING, May 29 -- The disgraced head of China's drug administration was sentenced to death Tuesday for accepting what a court described as "huge bribes" to approve faulty medicines, including a batch of antibiotics that killed six patients and sickened 80.

The sentence handed down to Zheng Xiaoyu, 63, former chief of the State Food and Drug Administration, was not unprecedented in China's long struggle against corruption. But it was unusually harsh and was interpreted as a signal from the government that it is determined to look after the public's interest.

Zheng's conviction, announced by the official New China News Agency and highlighted by other government media, followed international alarm over tainted exports from Chinese factories, including pet food that killed animals in the United States and toothpaste with a potentially poisonous chemical additive that was sold in Latin America.

In what was seen as a gesture to those concerns, an official said Tuesday that the government plans to set up a product recall system to make it harder for fraudulent or unsafe exports to reach the market here or abroad. Other officials, however, were quoted in the government-controlled media as saying the problem arises when export firms skirt existing government controls, often with the cooperation of foreign companies purchasing the products.

[Wezil]

It's so much easier to find a scapegoat then it is to actually address the problem.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by FrostyBoy
But you probably are and not knowing it.


Come on, it won't put hair on your chest. Don't forget, Chinese are the greatest cooks in the world, they're also the most populous, must be doing something right.

I didn't say I wouldn't eat Chinese food, or food made by a cook who is ethnically Chinese.

I do avoid eating products with origins in China. This makes it somewhat difficult to find canned mushrooms around here. Christmas oranges are another item; mandarins that are a product of Japan are not common.