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    24 dead in Israel desert bus crash

    3 hours ago

    UVDA, Israel (AFP) — Twenty-four people were killed and 33 hurt when a bus carrying visiting Russian travel agents plunged into a ravine from a notoriously dangerous road in Israel's Negev desert on Tuesday, rescuers said.

    Among the injured, 23 were in a serious condition, the Magen David Adom rescue service said.

    "The bodies of the passengers were hurled from the bus as it crashed down into the ravine," said a taxi driver who was travelling behind the bus.



    "The driver of the bus tried to overtake another bus in a hairpin curve and lost control of his vehicle," he told Israeli public radio.

    Army radio said the driver survived the crash but was in shock and unable to say what happened. It added that he had previously been cited with 22 traffic violations.

    Local media said the passengers were among 150 Russian travel agents who had just arrived to survey the Red Sea resort of Eilat, which is bracing for an invasion of tourists seeking to get away from the harsh winter at home.

    The travel agents were aboard two buses going from from Uvda airport to Eilat, 50 kilometres (30 miles) away. Those on the ill-fated bus had flown in from Saint Petersburg.

    Local media said the bus flipped over several times as it plunged down 13 metres (45 feet) on to a dry river bed in the Negev, a rocky desert that covers more than half of Israel's land mass.

    "The sight was horrible," said Michel Elkaslasy, the owner of the company that rented out the bus. "The bus is upside-down at the end of nowhere," he told the YNet online news service.

    A highway safety official told public radio that 10 accidents had occurred on the same stretch of road over the past seven years, some resulting in fatalities.

    Air force helicopters and ambulances rushed the casualties to a hospital in Eilat, which received reinforcements from doctors and nurses attending a medical congress in Israel's southernmost city.

    The health ministry ordered all medical personnel in Eilat to report to the hospital in order to help the casualties.

    Those with serious injuries were transferred to other cities that have larger hospitals, while the bodies of the dead were being flown to Tel Aviv for identification.

    Two Russian planes are to due leave for Israel to bring psychological and medical assistance for the victims and also take loved ones of the dead and injured to the scene of the tragedy, Russia's Interfax news agency reported.

    At the same time, the Israeli tourism ministry has set up a crisis centre manned with a Russian speaker to take calls from anxious relatives.

    "It was an information gathering voyage for five tour operators from Saint Petersburg," a spokeswoman for the Russian travel industry union, Irina Tiurina, told the RIA Novosti agency.

    Eilat has become increasingly popular with Russians flying in on charter flights in search of winter sun and who now benefit from a visa-free regime between the two countries.

  • #2
    TWENTY TWO violations. Driving a bus. WTF?

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    • #3
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      • #4
        Israeli bus and truck drivers are horrible.
        He has twenty two violations in 20 years, and our pathetic excuse for police says it is commonplace for professional drivers and he's definitely not above average.

        I think I remember a case last year where a truck driver had several hundred violations(!!)

        Israeli courts absolutely suck ass. They are absolutely lenient on criminals. Especially if the person claims its his only source of income to provide for his family.

        The Israeli penal system is in shambles. Sadly most of the Israeli politicians only like to deal with foreign affairs and defense issues.

        Ever since the Oslo process there has been very little advancement in inner Israeli affairs, because government would rise and fall on the foreign issues.

        Israel is in dire need of reforms in major areas, but its left behind as its politicians squabble about the Palestinian issue which never seems to go off the main agenda.

        This is horrible for the country.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by onodera
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sirotnikov
            The Israeli penal system is in shambles. Sadly most of the Israeli politicians only like to deal with foreign affairs and defense issues.

            Ever since the Oslo process there has been very little advancement in inner Israeli affairs, because government would rise and fall on the foreign issues.

            Israel is in dire need of reforms in major areas, but its left behind as its politicians squabble about the Palestinian issue which never seems to go off the main agenda.

            This is horrible for the country.
            I was about to make some snarky comment about killing Pals (which would have made the same point you just did, albeit in a cruel and mocking manner) but I see there's no need.

            Take the first step, Siro. De-emphasize the Palestinian issue when you vote.
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            • #7
              short version: this is what i have been doing KH, but our political system is crap


              long version:
              Sadly there are very little politicians who are willing to do stuff not relating to the palestinian issue. And most of those are horrible.

              The more respected politicians who want to make a difference, usually try and prove their might on the palestinian issue, because it is considered the most crucial one.

              The politicians who are left passing all the civic laws are usually dumb, corrupt and represent narrow interest groups. That's why Israel has slowly been declining and losing its huge lead in quality of life.

              The problem is that the palestinian issue is intermixed with everything.

              It is hard to elect a liberal civil rights person who will not be too dovish on the palestinians. It is hard to elect a conservative economic person, who would not be too right wing on the palestinian issue.


              In reality, Israel has to find a way to put the palestinian issue on a back burner for a long time, and treat its own wounds.

              That can be done in two ways
              1) an unlikely peace / serious truce. At this point, most deals would be good to Israel assuming we get a signed deal on end of conflict, and no RoR period.

              2) finishing the fence, maximizing separation from the Palestinians and putting the whole issue on a back burner. I think this is what Sharon tried to reach.

              Sadly instead of those two, it looks like the day is near when we'll have to go amoc on Gaza, and it won't be nice.
              We'll probably kill off most of Hamas, and rid the strip of weapons, but we'll have alot of civilian casualties, alot of dead soldiers and we'll be stuck there, unable to leave - no existing palestinian government.


              My vote, since I could vote, usually goes for parties who are more active in the economic-civic and judicial areas. I'll probably do the same come this election. The condition is that they need to support what ever the major elected party will be doing in regards to the pals.

              Our police and judicial systems are crappy. Judges are uber-forgiving, and usually left leaning and activist in foreign affairs issues. Judges like to write long interesting verdicts instead of ... you know, making lives better.

              Police is incapable of stopping crime since it's politicized, filled with idiots, and the judges release everyone. So instead they pick white collar cases against politicians and try to gain public credit this way.

              Also the palestinian issue detracts here to - the police often does pure gendarmerie duties like patrolling and projecting force in crowded areas, to deter terrorism. This is both useless and wasteful, and there aren't enough cops cruising the streets for crime.
              Last edited by Sirotnikov; December 16, 2008, 19:27.

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              • #8
                It's not a unique problem to Israel, sadly. It's probably a good part of the problem in American politics. People vote for their representative based on one of three things:
                Political Party
                Stance on Abortion
                Stance on Gun Control
                ... or similar. They don't care in the slightest about their competence, unless they are GROSSLY incompetent, and don't care much about their stances on issues beyond a single one or two issues.
                Last edited by snoopy369; December 16, 2008, 19:27.
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                • #9
                  OF COURSE the driver survived.
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                  • #10
                    I was under the impression that violent crime was pretty rare in Israel. (esp. if you don't count terroristm)

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                    • #11
                      there isn't much violent crime as in the states.
                      no actual gangs or youth with guns going around shooting.

                      but there is some knifing, and fighting around clubs, attacking old ladies and your general robberies.

                      also there is ever stronger organized crime.

                      we had several car bombs in tel aviv in the past 2 years which were under-world related.

                      sadly our mafia is quite strong and has some serious international reach, responsible for drug traffic and gambling even in places in europe, south east asia and the US.

                      we also had several spectacular robberies, including a Hollywood-like clever robbery of a bank safe with an underground tunnel and all, and interesting robberies of jewelry stores.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by onodera
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                        • #13
                          Reading this thread, I got suspicious of Siro, who is notably conservative.

                          A quick look shows that:

                          •Israel's murder rate hovers anywhere between 2.2-3/100,000 (compared to 1.5-2.5 in Western Europe)
                          •Incarceration rate is quite high at roughly 170/100,000 (most developed countries are at 100 or below)

                          Sounds like he's the typical conservative bull****ting about crime.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DRoseDARs
                            OF COURSE the driver survived.
                            Usually, bus drivers have seat beats. Passengers do not.

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                            • #15
                              If this is so unusual and shocking, then driver saftey is not that much of an issue there. We had a running game at my office in San Antonio, projecting when the next "Mexican Bus Plunge" would occur. Usually there were 1 or 2 (reported in the news up here) per month.
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