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  • #76
    Originally posted by Kuciwalker


    If those numbers are right, you're saying 5-10% of people in that IQ range work in HE physics. Interesting...
    By the way, I know my own numbers and I also know that I am nothing particularly unusual in my cohort...
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    • #77
      Perhaps you merely labor harder at your studies than the others?

      Therefore you would tend to overrate them.
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      • #78
        I don't think you understand what I just said.

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        • #79
          Or basic logic, from your DanS.

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          • #80
            ... I'll try to say it in a more comprehensible, less quippish way since I understand it's confusing:

            - You said you had a high IQ
            - And you thought you were only average among your coworkers.
            - Therefore, syllogistically, they must have even higher IQs.

            My comment, as I see it now was slightly misworded- what I probably should have said (and please don't take this as an insult- although regrettably what I'm saying now does seem to imply that you do not work hard- which was not at all what I meant to imply, since I have no idea either way. But apparently that's what I meant to say, since my quip makes no sense otherwise. Sorry.)

            - You said you had a high IQ
            - Perhaps your coworkers are working a lot harder than you but are not as smart.
            - Therefore, they may very well have lower IQs.
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            • #81
              and please don't take this as an insult- although regrettably what I'm saying now does seem to imply that you do not work hard


              I don't work particularly hard.

              It's my weakest point.

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              • #82
                physicists are the laziest of scientists
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                • #83
                  Hah.

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                  • #84
                    I average a 50 hr week. This semester I was ~70. Most people do 60+ hrs a week.

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                    • #85
                      I think I have been at ~40 all year. It is some of the reason I think I should leave physics after I graduate.

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                      • #86
                        I should leave physics because they don't pay enough for the amount of work you need to do.
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                        • #87
                          Maybe because I am not married, but I don't care much as long as I make more than 50k.

                          I don't like working more then 40-50 hours per week unless it is really important though.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                            By the way, I know my own numbers and I also know that I am nothing particularly unusual in my cohort...
                            Is IQ really a good measure for the potential success of a physicist? Are there some who defy the odds?
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                            • #89
                              I have no idea if IQ is a particularly good measure.

                              There is good reason to believe it's a better measure for physicists than other scientists (both based on the fact that the physicist pop tests significantly higher on it than other scientists and based on the fact that spatial reasoning and pattern recognition are extremely important to physicists and are also stressed in IQ tests)

                              It's a quick and dirty proxy.
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                              • #90
                                By the way, I think IQ tests are full of crap (except as a very rough approximation) when it comes to determining something as many-dimensioned as "intelligence". I mention this every time I talk about IQ.

                                It is one measure. I think it lines up fairly well with "capability to be a physicist" when you additionally stress capability for symbol manipulation, an intuitive grasp of the relationship between numbers and the physical world and some other stuff I'm probably not thinking of right now.

                                I think it lines up less well with other branches of science, though there is still obviously a very strong correlation.
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