Make my Day......GOV Blagojevich arrested.

[KrazyHorse]

The flip side is, with tens of thousands of workers getting released out onto the market, what do you think the odds are they will find jobs? Not very high, not in this market.

The odds that they'll find a job? Given that last month's US employment report (the worst in decades) showed that for every 8 jobs lost 7 were created I'd say pretty good.

That means they end up on unemployment. That means the government probably extends unemployment benefits. This means they don't have health insurance anymore (if they did before) and are using ERs. Who pays for all that?

Well, given that the Detroit 3 between them employ ~400k employees in the US, that their parts suppliers would be quite happy to retool to supply "import" car manufacturers, that the 30 billion or so the car companies want won't keep them running for more than a few months at current loss rates and that unemployment benefits over a period of a few months don't generally run at the 75000$ per head these numbers imply then I'm pretty sure I know which one would be cheaper.

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It isn't the cost per resident. That's a very disingenuous statement as I have already pointed out.

What isn't the cost per resident?

You have residents. You have a cost. You divide one by the other and you get a cost per resident. That's straightforward grammar.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut
The FBI disagrees with che...

This is a surprise?

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse

The odds that they'll find a job? Given that last month's US employment report (the worst in decades) showed that for every 8 jobs lost 7 were created I'd say pretty good.

Yes, the fries were delicious.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by David Floyd
#1, I don't even know if that's legal.

We're not discussing what's legal. We're discussing what the law should be. Keep up please.

#2, neither the RNC nor the DNC would ever allow their vote to be dilluted like that

Diluted? I'm not sure what you mean.

#3, what would be the point when one can already be appointed for free?

The appointed Senator is going to accept no pay, sleep in a tent and use the local Kinko's? Senators aren't free. They have offices, staffs, get paid etc.

OK funny man, let me rephrase: So that x % of voters can feel good about themselves, everyone should have to shell out $25 million whether they agree or not?

Unless you're suggesting we reinstate poll taxes elections are going to remain a public good. I'll give you a hint: any argument which applies just as easily against holding a general election as it does a special election is already reduced to the absurd.

But we aren't talking about saving money, we are talking about spending money. No one is advocating cutting out an election to save money. I'm just saying don't spend additional money on an unnecessary and irrelevent election.

So now your argument is a simple status quo one?

Obvious to whom? On this thread, apparently it's only obvious to you. I wonder if that is representative of the state of Illinois?

Obvious to those who pay for it, obviously.

It distracts people from the overall cost, which simply leads to people thinking that government spending is no big deal. "Oh, 100 new fighter jets? Well, that's only $8/person, no biggie

To compare the benefit per individual while stating the cost to the aggregate (as you have already done once this thread) is just as stupid as to compare the benefit to the aggregate while stating the cost per individual. Which is why I've been comparing the cost per individual to the benefit per individual. If I was an American I certainly wouldn't get all excited about the benefit to me as an individual of the country owning 100 more jets (cost to purchase 100 f-35s would work out closer to 27$ per person BTW).

A bridge to nowhere? Well, I dunno, but if you're sure it only costs me $.50, then I guess it's not worth arguing about."

Actually, it really isn't. If you as a private individual get worked up about things like that then you might have a personality disorder of some kind. I would have that checked out.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Zkribbler


Yes, the fries were delicious.

Good. Then McDonald's can lower the price I pay for them

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
Except apparently an idiot governor, who depspite knowing that he was already under investigation for some time in various older matters, and the near certainty that he was under surveilence and likely bugged by the feds, cheerfully commits more crimes on the telephone. How the hell did this maroon ever advance in politics?
At least smart enough not to commits crimes in buggable electronic communications.

It's even worse. Blago publicly dared the authorities to wire tap him, stating he was clean and any such tapping would prove it. And here I thought Spitzer was the biggest self-destructive political moron...

I'm happy to see Blago go, as I was with Jefferson in LA.

[TCO]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Well, technically you had to pay up front and we're still waiting for the dominoes to topple. What's the appropriate discount rate on democratized individuals? Is there a futures market we can consult?

I think it was a self-mocking joke. Are you tired? Drinking? Sad?

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What was a self-mocking joke? His comment? I know that. I was carrying it to next level.

I have an understanding with him. Not as deep as understanding with you, but growing.

[TCO]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
a) I like reducing costs to dollars per person. It puts things in perspective. And makes it a lot more personal. Is my right to vote worth 2$? Hell yes. Is the existence of GM worth 100$ to me? **** no.

b) The thought that cutting 25 mill from the Illinois state budget by skimping on elections is the best way to go is retarded. The state of Illinois collects about 40 billion dollars in revenue each year. I guarantee there are things costing 25 million dollars in there which are better to get rid of than elections

c) I can't believe I'm even having this discussion. None of your points apply overmuch to a special election compared with a general election.

I'm on yhour side here, Kitty. A simple ratio is a very useful fast analytical exercise for business problems.

BTW, have I succeeded in geting everhyone to call you Kitty? Or is that just me?

[KrazyHorse]

Just you, mostly. The rest of them occasionally call me that and think it's an insult. They have no idea how secure in my manhood I am.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
What was a self-mocking joke? His comment? I know that. I was carrying it to next level.

I have an understanding with him. Not as deep as understanding with you, but growing.

Was this not obvious by followup post in which I suggest arbing democracy?

[TCO]

Originally posted by Comrade Snuggles

Originally posted by Asher
Chicago: Corrupt third world of the USA.

Not even close. New Jersey is easily the most corrupt state, and Chicago doesn't even place in the running against any Southern state. Chicagoans are just worse at it, so they get caught more.

Heartland fake commie: I done my Chi-town time and I done my VA time. No contest. I still remember Officer Friendly in Fairfax County who was like a Canadian mountie (it rhymes). Seriously, he helped me get money stolen from my wrestling locker and we put some loser in jail...in the big house. And in Evanston, that fat fvcker told my (soon to be) gf not to file a police report.

GRRRR.

[KrazyHorse]

VA cops just want to stop you for driving 3 miles an hour over the speed limit. I'm always afraid I'm going to get arrested when in VA. Looking over my shoulder constantly.

[KrazyHorse]

Anyway, Fairfax = fake South. Like America = fake frontier.

Even Republicans know this to be true.