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    I cant think of anything more confusing

    Jail terms for Israeli neo-Nazis

    Eight teenagers have been sentenced to time in jail by a court in Israel for carrying out a series of neo-Nazi attacks that shocked the nation.

    The eight, aged from 16 to 19, were found guilty of attacking religious Jews, gays and drug addicts, and the desecration of a synagogue.

    The group, immigrants to Israel from the former Soviet Union, were sentenced to between one and seven years in jail.

    Israel was founded in the wake of the Nazi Holocaust in which millions died.

    One of those convicted was the grandson of a Holocaust survivor.

    There was widespread revulsion in Israel when the existence of the neo-Nazi gang was revealed after their arrests in 2007.

    Attacks filmed

    Delivering his verdict, the judge at Tel Aviv district court said he handed down severe penalties in an effort to deter others from following their example.

    Gang leader Erik Bonite, who is also known as Ely the Nazi, was sentenced to seven years in jail, the AFP news agency reported.

    "The fact that they are Jews from the ex-Soviet Union and that they had sympathised with individuals who believed in racist theories is terrible," Judge Tsvi Gurinkel said as he handed down his verdict.

    All eight lived in Petah Tikva, near Tel Aviv, where the group made videos of their attacks and hoarded a cache of fascist memorabilia.

    According to information released at the time, searches of their homes yielded Nazi uniforms, portraits of Adolf Hitler, knives, guns and TNT.

    The gang members sported tattoos popular with white supremacists - including the number 88, code for Heil Hitler - H being the eighth letter of the alphabet.

    Video clips found on computers seized by police showed the suspects dressed in typical skinhead neo-Nazi clothes, in the process of assaulting their victims, Israel's Haaretz newspaper reported.

    They were charged with offences including conspiracy to commit a crime, assault, racial incitement and the distribution of racist materials.

    The suspects all migrated to Israel under the Law of Return, which allows anyone with at least one Jewish grandparent to become a citizen.

    But their links to Judaism are slender, with most qualifying for citizenship through grandparents or distant family connections.


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  • #2
    Think about it: with Jewish Nazis in charge of a country, everybody would win.
    "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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    • #3
      old news. I think I even read about them here at Poly maybe a year ago
      "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
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      • #4
        Well, it's easy to find targets in Israel, I'd suppose.
        I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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        • #5
          I think it is pretty safe to assume that they don't consider themselves as being Jews.

          Unless...

          Maybe it's like..."All jews are evil, except us. And our friends. Hitler would've been my good pal if I'd just had a few minutes to explain how much I admired him."

          Or maybe..."Hitler had so many good ideas and I love him so much...maybe he just needed to meet some really nice jews who hated other people as much as he did?"

          ...or "National Socialism without all the icky anti-semitism. It's the kinder, gentler Nazism. If Hitler lived today, he wouldn't have cared about jews"

          the possibilities are endless!
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          • #6
            There's a fair possibility that Hitler's grandfather was Jewish. Hitler's father, Alois, was registered as an illegitimate child with no father. Alois' mother worked in the home of a wealthy Jew and there is some chance a son in that household got the woman (i.e., Hitler's grandmother) pregnant.

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            • #7
              They're Russian Jews. Many of those are in a problematic situation: They aren't neccessarily seen as Jews by others. They have hard to adapt to Israeli life and to integrate. Not surprising that those youth go to extremes, but nevertheless sad...
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              • #8
                That's not the problem, Nikolai. The problem is that they do not see themselves as Jews. They must be of Jewish heritage, if they immigrated into Israel as Jews, but they do not consider themselves to be such. I seem to recall reading last year that these people saw themselves as members of the supreme Slav race and not as Jews.

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                • #9
                  In Sweden, one of the most infamous neo-nazis is black. So much for white power. He's in jail for bank robbery & police murder. He has also been sentenced for war crimes in ex-Jugoslavia.
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                  • #10
                    I've heard of black Irish, but I've never heard of black Slavs.
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                    • #11
                      I found the thread: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...hreadid=170056

                      Originally posted by Solver
                      That's not the problem, Nikolai. The problem is that they do not see themselves as Jews. They must be of Jewish heritage, if they immigrated into Israel as Jews, but they do not consider themselves to be such. I seem to recall reading last year that these people saw themselves as members of the supreme Slav race and not as Jews.

                      I read about some of those dickheads who vowed not to reproduce, doing their part that the Jewish race doesn't grow. I can't help but agree that they made a good choice...
                      "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                      "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                      • #12
                        "Jewish race"?

                        I thought judaism was a religion.
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                        • #13
                          It's both.
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                          • #14
                            Really?
                            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Wernazuma III
                              old news. I think I even read about them here at Poly maybe a year ago
                              Yeah, we had a thread on this. Damn, Markos is making duplicate threads.
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