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  • #31
    KH is married, I am terrible with women.

    I am not saying that the engagement should just be a couple months or anything.

    And it is true about biology. I am fine with the idea of dating older women, but since I want children biology places limitations so that I really shouldn't seriously consider someone much over 34.

    Mostly my point is that relationship should be developing, I see a lot of people just stick in a non-ideal relationship but they don't leave it because it is easy and satisfies them in some ways. Then years later they either break up or get married. And if you break up after years of dating, isn't that a bit frustrating? Like wasted development?

    JM
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    • #32
      Originally posted by KrazyHorse
      I see way too many women who are desperate to get married and will therefore pretend to be people they aren't until they get a ring on their finger.
      They can pretend for well over a year?

      That is pretty serious.

      Can't you study her past to check to see if this is possible?

      JM
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
        Part of this is probably due to biology. Men have a longer window to make up their minds about having a family. Women always have the harsh reality that if they take too long, they may run out of time.
        Then perhaps these women should have been better judges of character and had more reasonable expectations in their early and mid 20s. Nobody makes these women date good-looking, overconfident *******s who have no intention of doing anything more than ****ing them and dumping them.

        By the way, just so it doesn't seem like I'm being bitter, I started dating my wife when we were 20 and we got married 2 years ago at 26 (well, she had turned 27 the day before our wedding). I never had a problem getting dates, but I saw a lot of guys who did, and I now see a lot of women who would give their eye teeth for the guys they wouldn't have looked twice at 5 years ago.
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        • #34
          I think he means that women act a certain way when they're single and then enter a completely different mindset when they're married.

          I've seen this happen. It's almost like a "I'm in a different phase of my life" mindset. They also occasionally become complete swine to their unmarried female friends.

          Not that I would know how that feels or anything.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Jon Miller


            They can pretend for well over a year?
            Uhhhh...yeah. Not that hard.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Jon Miller
              Then years later they either break up or get married. And if you break up after years of dating, isn't that a bit frustrating? Like wasted development?
              JM
              Depends on if you regard life as a journey or as a series of destinations. If a journey, then satisfaction, even if minimal, is sufficient in the present. I'm married, but that step was more of a legal/religious process for all the other folk (parents, grandparents, cousins, et al).
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              • #37

                Mostly my point is that relationship should be developing, I see a lot of people just stick in a non-ideal relationship but they don't leave it because it is easy and satisfies them in some ways. Then years later they either break up or get married. And if you break up after years of dating, isn't that a bit frustrating? Like wasted development?


                As Blaupanzer says above, it isn't only about getting married and having kids. It's also about having fun and getting laid. I personally think that far too many people stick in relationships which suck for far too long as well, but if you date somebody with the sole intention of moving "the relationship" forward it's just as pathological.
                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                Killing it is the new killing it
                Ultima Ratio Regum

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                • #38
                  I have generally lived my life as a set of goals I am working towards. Might be a difference of philosophy then.

                  JM
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                  • #39
                    AC, oh yeah, the good old fighting couple. This is almost a cliche already, NEVER EVER intervene. Even if it's a beating, I mean call the cops or something, unless it gets really nasty, and even then you have to have other witnesses. Why? BEcause they'll turn against you both in court, the latest, adn you're the aggressor.

                    Simply do not intervene. It happens so often that it's not even funny.

                    More seriously, my advice is to punch the girl really hard in the face first. You will either KO her or down her really badly, so she will be almost in a shock. Now, if you punch hard enough, the guy will be also in a shock for few seconds. This doesn't work if you're a slapper or weak puncher. Punch HARD. You know when you hear the bone type of a punch. THe one that doesn't say SLAP but THUNK! The bunker buster punch. Do that and it works.

                    Then most likely the dude will be in such a state that he won't even retaliate. But he might. He will most likely be way too passive first, pushing or *****ing. Now is your time to pull out the knife and ask if he had any complaints. Now, you stopped the fight, no one got hurt except the girl, and they won't come after you.

                    FAFU! FAFU! FAFU! FAFU!

                    Hey, even my dad taught me from young age (seriously) that never intervene a fighting couple. They will turn on you at some point. Unless it's a slaughter, and then you're most likely better off calling the cops anyway.

                    JM, in here, marrying someone after a year of dating is considered extremely soon. In EU, avg for men getting married is 29 years old and for women 27. It's gone up a lot of years in few decades though. There are just things that needs to happen first before I propose, and they will be happening this coming year. So after that, absolutely yes. She knows about it too. She agrees and waits
                    In da butt.
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                    • #40
                      I didn't say get married after a year of dating, Pekka. I said engaged.

                      JM
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                      • #41
                        All right, I have to admit it's sort of gratifying to watch stuck-up *****es who would have laughed in my face if I'd asked them on a date 5 years ago starting to cast around for whatever guys are left who aren't drug addicts, massively overweight, unemployed or physically abusive.

                        And I'm not even 30 yet.

                        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                        Stadtluft Macht Frei
                        Killing it is the new killing it
                        Ultima Ratio Regum

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                        • #42
                          JM, aaah, ok. Well that's a bit different yes. People do get engaged in a year or so sometimes, quite often in fact. But to the both of us it's a promise of getting married within a year. Many people in here get engaged, even meaning that it is a promise of marriage, but the date is sort of in the future, who knows when. But for us, it's more literal, as in next year, and we're setting the date in few weeks. So that's why I'm waiting, and yeah, so then it'll be likely in little over a year, getting engaged. So sure.
                          In da butt.
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                          THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                            Then perhaps these women should have been better judges of character and had more reasonable expectations in their early and mid 20s. Nobody makes these women date good-looking, overconfident *******s who have no intention of doing anything more than ****ing them and dumping them.

                            By the way, just so it doesn't seem like I'm being bitter, I started dating my wife when we were 20 and we got married 2 years ago at 26 (well, she had turned 27 the day before our wedding). I never had a problem getting dates, but I saw a lot of guys who did, and I now see a lot of women who would give their eye teeth for the guys they wouldn't have looked twice at 5 years ago.
                            you can't blame women for guys who can't get dates with women. It's women's nature to go after rich, powerful, good looking men; just as how men go after good looking women. The men need to get a clue and stop trying to get only the hot women. There are many single women out there. But sometimes you can't get supermodel quality women.

                            As for myself, well... The type of women I can get, I don't want. I don't care for white trash. Really turns me off. I prefer to go without. Now if such a woman existed who was into politics, science, history, computers, and hiking. Well then I'd go for it. But white trash activities don't amuse me.
                            Last edited by Dis; November 25, 2008, 12:11.

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                            • #44
                              Are you some sort of breeding cyborg, Jon?

                              [cheesy robot voice] Compatability match found. Age satisfactory. Background check complete. Must not date for more than one year. Suboptimal breeding efficiency may result. All other satisfaction inconsequential. [/cheesy robot voice]
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                              • #45
                                Dis, as far as I can see most of the time it's (some) women turning down guys who are equal in looks/intelligence in early adulthood then getting stuck with a worse guy some years later. Not just guys going for women out of their league (which they also do, to be certain).
                                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                                Killing it is the new killing it
                                Ultima Ratio Regum

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