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  • #31
    Well, if it's not an actual pardon, would a law repealing this one remove the protection? Here's hoping If the Nuremberg defense didn't work for the Nazis, it sure as hell shouldn't work here.
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    • #32
      Sorry, but that would only work if Iraq and Aghanistan invaded and conquered the US. If that was the case, there could be a "Nuremberg" war crime court.
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      • #33
        maybe removing the retroactive part of it might fly


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        • #34
          what imran said
          Unbelievable!

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          • #35
            I'm talking about the bill Congress passed in October 2006 which gave retroactive immunity to prosecution for breaking the Geneva Convention. Since that's not a pardon and instead and act of Congress then maybe something can be done. Especially since it was illegal when the acts occurred, then declared retroactively legal so maybe just maybe something can be done.
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            • #36
              Yes, and maybe we could preemptively prosecute Barack Obama too. It would save us all a lot of time and agony.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by DanS
                He'll give pardons, like every president does. I doubt he'll give a lot of them, unlike especially Clinton.
                I probably meant contentious pardons and many of those.
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                • #38
                  Bush is way behind both Clinton and Reagen, who gave out just a little under 400 each in their two terms. Bush is around 125 now. Clinton did have a number of high profile pardons. Thus far, Bush's have been rather pedestrian, a bunch of reletive unknowns compared to the past few presidents. That will most likely change in january, when he releases his final list.
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                  • #39
                    You put it so delicately, Swissy. Clinton had a thoroughgoing pardon bazaar going on.
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                    • #40
                      You betcha! *wink*
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                      • #41
                        us > accountability

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                        • #42
                          Re: Is Bush going to issue pardons on the way out?

                          Originally posted by Colonâ„¢
                          I'm a bit curious about this.
                          It's become a bit of a tradition for the outgoing president to give pardons to a few deserving people. What you wont see, is the wholesale selling of pardons that Clinton did.

                          I dont think we'll see any pardons that will be contentious to the Dems (ie republican pals) but there may be some that will piss off the rabid right.
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