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  • #16
    [GOP mode] Pardon for what? [/GOP Mode]
    So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
    Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Oerdin
      On the up side it makes it easier for the international criminal court to try them. The ICC can only go after someone if their home country refuses or can't. We'll Bush and the Republicans made sure we can't in the US so go ICC.
      *cough* You have to be a ratified party to the Rome Statute for the ICC to assert jurisdiction, and even if the U.S. were to hypothetically become a signatory sometime in the future (which it won't, not even under Obama), it can't assert jurisdiction retroactively anyway *cough*
      Last edited by Darius871; November 8, 2008, 15:33.
      Unbelievable!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Oerdin
        On the up side it makes it easier for the international criminal court to try them. The ICC can only go after someone if their home country refuses or can't. We'll Bush and the Republicans made sure we can't in the US so go ICC.
        I thought that the US had already refused to participate in the International Criminal Court?

        Did the amnesty bill pass?
        "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Dr Strangelove

          I thought that the US had already refused to participate in the International Criminal Court?
          Originally posted by Darius871


          *cough* You have to be a ratified party to the Rome Statute for the ICC to assert jurisdiction, and even if the U.S. were to hypothetically become a signatory sometime in the future (which it won't, not even under Obama), it can't assert jurisdiction retroactively anyway *cough*
          Unbelievable!

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          • #20
            The guy who was "leaked" by unnamed White House officials to be the scapegoat for the supposedly sure-to-exist ("we know where they are", Dick Cheney said) Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction.

            The guy who was "leaked" by unnamed White House officials to be the scapegoat for revenging to Valerie Plame by revealing her identity while she was an undercover agent for the CIA.

            They'll both also probably get some sort of medals for what they've done, a few days before Bush steps down.

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            • #21
              If he steps down..

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Winston
                If he steps down..

                I think that even Bushy would see it a bit embarassing to be evcited from the white house by the local sheriff for trespassing.
                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                Steven Weinberg

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                • #23
                  He could claim executive privilege.

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                  • #24
                    Don't think it will help when the new owner want's to take over the shack.
                    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                    Steven Weinberg

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                    • #25
                      Go to the courts then. Bush has John Roberts' number memorized.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Winston
                        He could claim executive privilege.

                        Why don't you just leave Apolyton?
                        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by MrFun



                          Why don't you just leave Apolyton?
                          hey, easy on Winston - he is after all on WWF list of endangered species
                          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                          Steven Weinberg

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                          • #28
                            What, a Bush supporter?
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Darius871


                              *cough* You have to be a ratified party to the Rome Statute for the ICC to assert jurisdiction, and even if the U.S. were to hypothetically become a signatory sometime in the future (which it won't, not even under Obama), it can't assert jurisdiction retroactively anyway *cough*
                              I bet someone will find a way.

                              Alternatively since the immunity from prosecution deal was retroactive maybe removing the retroactive part of it might fly? After all it was illegal in the US at the time that it occurred and it wasn't an official pardon but instead and act of Congress so maybe a new act of Congress could remove the immunity from prosecution.
                              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                              • #30
                                "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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