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  • #61
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    We need the rest of the party to follow in McCain (and yes, Bush's) immigration ideals. At the very least, Gingrich's immigration ideals.
    Had John McCain delivered that the rest of the party would have little choice but to follow it.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Whoha in reference to interstate trade barriers
      This argument is specious.
      It's not specious at all. If the rational is that less developed economies need protection from better developed economies, then why aren't poor states protected from rich states? Why can't Maryland farmers use tariffs to protect their agriculture from the rest of the country? Why can't Michigan use tariffs to protect its automotive industry from lower cost plants in the south?

      Here's a simple question. Please don't dismiss it with some cowardly quip. Would you support a Constitutional amendment to allow interstate tariffs?
      John Brown did nothing wrong.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
        I think in the long term the Republicans need to jettison their anti-immigrant faction. They border (and sometimes not just border) on xenophobia against Hispanics.
        What's xenophobic about being against illegal immigration?
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • #64
          Much of the illegal immigration debate is framed in xenophobic terms. Makes me believe those who are most stridently against it have some problems with "the other".
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #65
            Originally posted by DinoDoc
            What's xenophobic about being against illegal immigration?
            I think Imran may be referring to the perception that, on the issue of immigration, Republicans tend to blur the distinction between immingrants and illegal immigrants.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
              spit on the troops coming home.)
              evidence?
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              • #67
                Were veterans spat upon as they returned from serving in Vietnam? When Holy Cross College scholar Jerry Lembcke studied the allegations for his 1998 bo ...
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #68
                  Oh wow! One Vietnam veteran. Could he have been an exception to the rule that the vast majority of vets were NOT spat on?
                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • #69
                    You really are an annoying little man aren't you? He asked for evidence of such incidents (likely because he's read Lembcke's work which said such incidents never happened) and I provided such evidence. Go get laid and calm the **** down.
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Felch


                      It's not specious at all. If the rational is that less developed economies need protection from better developed economies, then why aren't poor states protected from rich states? Why can't Maryland farmers use tariffs to protect their agriculture from the rest of the country? Why can't Michigan use tariffs to protect its automotive industry from lower cost plants in the south?

                      Here's a simple question. Please don't dismiss it with some cowardly quip. Would you support a Constitutional amendment to allow interstate tariffs?
                      No I would not. States don't have to accept debt or asset sales to purchase things from other states. Dollars are good for all debts public and private. Dollars furthermore are not controlled by any one state. And this entity that controls the dollar also oversees trade to make sure that tariff and non-tariff barriers don't prolifigate like wildfires. The argument is specious.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by DinoDoc
                        You really are an annoying little man aren't you? He asked for evidence of such incidents (likely because he's read Lembcke's work which said such incidents never happened) and I provided such evidence. Go get laid and calm the **** down.

                        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                        • #72
                          States don't have to accept debt or asset sales to purchase things from other states.


                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
                          Killing it is the new killing it
                          Ultima Ratio Regum

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                          • #73
                            McCain and Bush on immigration


                            and trade:


                            Rallying bigots to your party in order to win.
                            I agree. The way the Dems rallied bigoted blacks and hispanics to win the Presidential election was shameful.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut


                              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                              Stadtluft Macht Frei
                              Killing it is the new killing it
                              Ultima Ratio Regum

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                              • #75
                                Canadian immigration system

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