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  • #16
    Well it sounds like something he'd do.
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    • #17
      I heard even with the 700 bn that the banks still aren't lending (they are however giving bonuses to themselves) and I think I know why. With the flight of industry allowed by care not governments since the 70s and the crash of the economy brought on by thieves and idiots there's almost nobody out there that can really qualify for a mortgage anymore. So while they've determined why the problem started, bad loans, they're just figuring out that there are very few good loans left to make. So, they have to start making bad loans again to get the numbers up.

      This won't end well.
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      • #18
        As long as the auto industry is as badly run as it is today, bailing it out only delays the inevitable. Maybe that delay is necessary to prevent further economic woes, but I don't think subsidies are a good idea in the medium- or long-term.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Arrian
          It seems a tad premature to freak out because Kid says "people are saying that the first thing Obama will do about the economy is shore up the auto manufacturers."

          Don't you think?

          -Arrian
          I hear McCain's campaign staff are going to hijack his next flight and crash it into North Korea so he can be tortured some more to earn sympathy for the GOP.

          ...well, it sounds like something they'd do, doesn't it?
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Arrian
            It seems a tad premature to freak out because Kid says "people are saying that the first thing Obama will do about the economy is shore up the auto manufacturers."

            Don't you think?

            -Arrian
            No, because that's precisely what Obama said he would turn to first. I don't know why he said it (he would have carried Michigan anyway), but he did.
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            • #21
              Ah, fair enough if so. I missed that comment.

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              • #22
                I believe Obama will be more like an Oreck........

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                • #23
                  hmmm... It's ok to bail out loansharks but not an industry that actually makes something and hires blue collar workers. Let alone if we actually got into some sort of major conflict that required things like tanks, jeeps, etc etc

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                  • #24
                    Unfortunately, the loan sharks had us over a barrel. But fortunately, The industry that actually makes something doesn't have us over a barrel.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Deity Dude
                      hmmm... It's ok to bail out loansharks but not an industry that actually makes something and hires blue collar workers. Let alone if we actually got into some sort of major conflict that required things like tanks, jeeps, etc etc
                      Ironically, the more they dish out to corporations the higher borrowing costs get. Plus who's going to buy a car right now when they will be cheaper next year, and even cheaper the next year....
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                      • #26
                        I picked up Obamanomics from the library to try to get some idea of what his plan will be. I'm only on the second chapter, but according to the author, John R. Talbott, it is to achieve economic justice. The idea is that this will motivate workers to produce more. Now that sounds like Hoover.
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                        • #27
                          Re: Re: Will Obama be another Hoover?

                          Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                          That is the worst idea I've ever heard.

                          If that's really true I envy you.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Will Obama be another Hoover?

                            Originally posted by Kidicious
                            People are saying that the first thing Obama will do about the economy is shore up the auto manufacturers. He also plans to raise taxes. These two things indicate to me that he will be like Hoover in dealing with economic problems.
                            I believe what he's said is that the gov't should lend auto makers the money with which to re-tool so they can build more fuel-efficient cars.

                            He did say, once, that if things go worse with the economy that maybe he'd put off revoking the Bush tax cuts for those making more than $250,000/year until they automatically terminate next year.

                            BTW: Obama isn't another Hoover; he's another FDR. It's Bush who copied Hoover's tricke-down economics and deregulated, highly-leverage finance markets,

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                            • #29
                              Re: Re: Re: Will Obama be another Hoover?

                              Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                              If that's really true I envy you.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Kidicious
                                I picked up Obamanomics from the library to try to get some idea of what his plan will be. I'm only on the second chapter, but according to the author, John R. Talbott, it is to achieve economic justice. The idea is that this will motivate workers to produce more. Now that sounds like Hoover.
                                Geez, just go to BarackObama.com and download his "Blueprint for Change."

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