So you're John McCain...

[Lancer]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Lancer,

I forgot. How do you feel about corporate welfare? I'm assuming that you're for it, based on your recent comment.

Socialism might not be too bad for me. I'm 50, got maybe 25 years left, got no kids that will have to pay off the debt I'm incurring as an American citizen or will incur in a socialist state in that time. I assume they will keep the money flowing to the elderly under socialism.

If I had kids I would be very worried about their future under socialism.

The nice thing about absolute gridlock in government is that they have a harder time spending money. If they are all the same party...well we'll see won't we?

Corporate welfare blows.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Velociryx

If they somehow pull a victory, I'm moving to Europe!

-=Vel=-

My recommendation: start checking airfares.

[Impaler[WrG]]

You forget all the racist people who won't vote for Obama no matter what, and the people who emphasize what candidates say about abortion (Versus what they will do), who will vote for Palin no matter what.

The buzz from the left is that they have convinced practically the entire 'middle' who would normally be considered persuadable and are not starting to see open racists becoming the undecideds. People say they go out canvasing and say to their faces things like "Obama may be a N**** but this economy really needs better management and McCain is clearly senile". If thats the type of though process going on then this is over.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Lancer
I assume they will keep the money flowing to the elderly under socialism.

If I had kids I would be very worried about their future under socialism.

We don't kilz babies. Although sometimes we kilz old guys.

[Wiglaf]

McCain should start arguing that a fillibuster proof Democratic control of all branches of government would be devastating for the country. There needs to be some check or they will socialize everything and spend more than Jon Miller in a physics textbook store.

[Bosh]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
McCain should start arguing that a fillibuster proof Democratic control of all branches of government would be devastating for the country. There needs to be some check or they will socialize everything and spend more than Jon Miller in a physics textbook store.

There's no ****ing way in hell that Democrats will get 60 seats in the Senate this election.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Bosh
There's no ****ing way in hell that Democrats will get 60 seats in the Senate this election.

Actually, based on the current polling, there is statistically a 1 in 4 chance:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/senate-projections-109.html

[Kirnwaffen]

Palin pre-empts state report, clears self
Alaska lawmakers expected to release ethics probe findings Friday

updated 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Trying to head off a potentially embarrassing state ethics report on GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, campaign officials released their own report Thursday that clears her of any wrongdoing.

Sen. John McCain's running mate is the subject of a legislative investigation into whether she abused her power as governor by firing her public safety commissioner. The commissioner, Walter Monegan, says he was dismissed in July for resisting pressure from Palin's husband, Todd Palin, and numerous top aides to fire state trooper Mike Wooten, Palin's former brother-in-law.

The move came hours after the state Supreme Court refused to halt the ethics investigation.

Lawmakers were expected to release their own findings Friday. Campaign officials have yet to see that report ¡ª the result of an investigation that began before she was tapped as McCain's running mate ¡ª but said the investigation has falsely portrayed a legitimate policy dispute between a governor and her commissioner as something inappropriate.

"The following document will prove Walt Monegan's dismissal was a result of his insubordination and budgetary clashes with Governor Palin and her administration," campaign officials wrote. "Trooper Wooten is a separate issue."

Monegan said Thursday that he doesn't know what to expect from the legislative panel's own report.

"I just hope that the truth is figured out," Monegan told The Associated Press on Thursday. "That the governor did want me to fire him, and I chose to not. You just can't walk up to someone and say, 'I fire you.' He didn't do anything under my watch to result in termination."

Palin's critics say that shows she used her office to settle family affairs.

"When you're the governor, you leave your household hat at home and you become governor," said state Senate President Lyda Green, a Republican who has frequently clashed with Palin.

Campaign blames former opponent
The campaign's report instead blames former campaign opponent, Andrew Halcro, who has a blog, of conspiring with Wooten to pin Monegan's dismissal on the family's dispute with Wooten. Three days after Monegan was fired, they say, Wooten told his ex-wife, Palin's sister, that: "You guys are going down. Get ready for the show."

Two days after that confrontation, they say, Halcro and Wooten met at a hotel bar in Anchorage for more than three hours ¡ª and that evening, Halcro posted the first accusations on his blog that Monegan had been fired because of a vendetta against Wooten by the Palin family.

"It is tragic that a false story hatched by a blogger after drinks with Trooper Wooten led the legislature to allocate over $100,000 of public money to be spent in what has become a politically driven investigation," the 21-page report concludes.

Although the report describes Wooten as a separate issue, the McCain campaign goes into great detail about the "rogue" trooper and his "long history of unstable and erratic behavior." The campaign describes allegations of violence, including threatening Palin's family and shooting his stepson with a stun gun.

The report also includes allegations that Wooten cheated the workers' compensation system. Todd Palin has said he had numerous conversations with government officials about why Wooten was allowed to stay on the job.

"The Palins make no apologies for wanting to protect their family and wanting to bring attention to the injustice of a violent trooper keeping his badge and abusing the workers' compensation system."

But Todd Palin said he never pressured anyone, including his wife.

The McCain campaign says the investigation has become "muddied with innuendo, rumor and partisan politics."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27105917/]

Well, if I were John McCain, I certainly wouldn't do this. I mean, seriously, this doesn't strike me as the least bit politically savy. They don't even know what the official report is going to say. If anything, it seems to me that this might draw more attention to the matter.

[Kidlicious]

Obviously she is guilty and the real report will say so today.

[Victor Galis]

Well McCain declared victory in the debate hours before it happened.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
McCain should start arguing that a fillibuster proof Democratic control of all branches of government would be devastating for the country. There needs to be some check or they will socialize everything and spend more than Jon Miller in a physics textbook store.

Actually he's being attacked by fiscal conservatives for his mortgage bailout proposal.

The only people who will vote for him now are the people who hate Obama.

[Blaupanzer]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
I'm unaware of any campaign where the tide turned this dramatically, this late. Am I forgetting something?

Actually, the "October Surprise" is a time-honored tradition of Presidential politics. So several campaigns have turned heavily in the last 5 weeks. However, in no campaign since at least 1952 has the tide turned back once the surprise effect set in. Some of the surprises were entrapments of a sort -- one side holding the paperwork or evidence, then releasing at the last minute to prevent the other guy from spinning out of it. Others were gaffes by one candidate who then watched his chances in certain crucial states fade away. Not many campaigns have faced national financial armageddon, in fact none since 1932.

[Blaupanzer]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
The last time a candidate got < 40% was Bush Sr. in 1992, and he would have gotten more if not for Perot. Before that, you have to go back to Goldwater, and that seems to have been an anomaly. When you have a two-party system, the loser is probably going to break 40%, even in a landslide for the winner. Carter, Mondale and Dukakis all got in the 40s, after all.

You forgot McGovern. He got walloped as bad as Goldwater by Tricky Dick.

[Blaupanzer]

Originally posted by Bosh
There's no ****ing way in hell that Democrats will get 60 seats in the Senate this election.

Actually the sober predictors think 61 is likely, if you count the two "independents" that currently caucus with the dems. Not likely to get 2/3 of the house however.