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  • #16
    You're not trying to argue that "only" $500,000/year is somehow 'middle class', are you? Particularly when that's an order of magnitude larger than the average and median household incomes?

    I mean, granted, it's nothing like the compensation investment bankers got in the halcyon days of 1H 2008...
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Patroklos
      Why do people think being the son of an Admiral equates to privelage?

      A four star with 30 years of experiance only pulls 500K a year (and military pay is much more now than back then), compare that with other proffessions of similar education and scope and that is nothing.

      Also, are we supposed to no like McCain because he liked girls and parties as a young man? Anyone ever here of that Kennedy fellow?
      Based on your comment I am guessing you did not read the article.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Patroklos


        Did you just say this? Seriously?
        Indeed I did. Point out the flaws if you disagree, instead of general hand-waving.
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        • #19
          I just did in my last post. Perhaps you should have quoted a protion of the article that wasn't complete drivel (if any of it qualifies) if you wanted people to spend time taking it seriously.
          "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Patroklos
            I just did in my last post. Perhaps you should have quoted a protion of the article that wasn't complete drivel (if any of it qualifies) if you wanted people to spend time taking it seriously.
            If you had actually read the article, you would know that he would have been thrown out of the navel academy a number of times if his father had not been a 4-star general. There are other examples in the article

            In McCain's case the privilege is not money, it is power through inherited connections.
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            • #21
              Mostly just a pattern of his incompetency at what ever he does, being privileged and whatnot. Womanizing. That's about it.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Felch


                Because it's another nine pages and the first was about as fair and balanced as Fox.

                Rolling Stone is acting like McCain a sissy for breaking under torture. I'm not a McCain fan, but that's pretty damn low.
                Having read the whole thing, it surely is not a "balanced" piece (clearly an attack) but its is better contructed than anything you get in Fox, and I learned a few things about McCain that I did not know, most of them coming from his own words and writings.

                As for McCain and torture, no, they don't call him a sissy, but they do a fine job of asking why the hell what happened to him shoukd form the base for a political campaign, as opposed to everything else.
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                • #23
                  If you had actually read the article, you would know that he would have been thrown out of the navel academy a number of times if his father had not been a 4-star general. There are other examples in the article
                  If you had read the article, you would have know that his father was a four star Admiral. Actually, seeing how horrible your little snipit was they probably did say General.

                  What, you think his father being an Admiral is news?

                  In McCain's case the privilege is not money, it is power through inherited connections.
                  Except all the stories about him getting garunteed a spot at the Academy are false, as you will note your own article simply assumes it is so. THe USS Hunt story is just stupid, driving the ship is just as much a part of being a JO as learning the boilers, and as common sense would tell you not all the JOs lear the boilers at the same time (who would be driving?). OMFG MCCAIN HAD A GOOD TIME ON HIS OFF HOURS!!! Really?

                  Do I need to lecture this site on the USNA admissions procedures yet again?

                  You have been takin in by a shoddy hit piece. Move on.
                  Last edited by Patroklos; October 6, 2008, 14:54.
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                  • #24
                    Add Thue to the long list of useless posters on the site. I'd love to see people like him get tortured for five years.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Wiglaf
                      Add Thue to the long list of useless posters on the site. I'd love to see people like him get tortured for five years.
                      Straight and to the point. Presidential material.

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                      • #26
                        Wow, after reading that shamefull spin about the Forrestal fire, anyone taking this article seriously at any level is a complete idiot.
                        "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Wiglaf
                          Add Thue to the long list of useless posters on the site. I'd love to see people like him get tortured for five years.
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                          • #28
                            Why only 5 years?
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                            • #29
                              The article's silly.

                              That said, I still don't get how anyone can claim USD 500,000/year is somehow middle class.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by GePap
                                Why don't you people read the article and then comment?

                                Nah, too much work I guess....
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