Obama up 8 points

[KrazyHorse]

Obama's basically ****ing McCain's corpse at this point. And it's not a total waste of money. The knowledge that McCain is being destroyed so utterly after having turned into the type of politician he used to hate makes me happy...

[Seedle]

Actually, it kind of amazes me that Obama's predicted lead is as small as it is, given the state of the nation and the spending advantage he has. It's scary to think that it might be close, or McCain might even have an advantage, if the country was doing OK, or if Obama didn't have the fantastic war-chest.

[KrazyHorse]

The "culture wars" of the last 2 decades have managed to lock in a base of partisan supporters to both sides which drastically reduces the available swing voters.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Obama's basically ****ing McCain's corpse at this point. And it's not a total waste of money. The knowledge that McCain is being destroyed so utterly after having turned into the type of politician he used to hate makes me happy...

Right now it's about having a tidal wave election that alters the shape of the electorate for years to come, just like 1980 or 1932:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14911.html

Dems predicting ‘earthquake’ election
By ANDY BARR | 10/24/08 12:36 PM EDT

Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg said Friday that his party is in position for “an earthquake election” come Nov. 4.

“Nothing is going to look the same,” Greenberg said, joined by Democratic strategist James Carville at a breakfast with reporters hosted by The Christian Science Monitor.

Carville likened the Washington political environment to pre-Hurricane Katrina New Orleans, saying that “there will be nothing left standing” after the election. He added that Republicans stand to lose “not just an election but a generation of voters.”

“[John] McCain and [Sarah] Palin are losing the argument,” Greenberg said, pointing to favorable numbers for Obama on the campaign’s central issue, the economy.

“They are losing on their central arguments,” the pollster said of the Republican’s focus on tax cuts. “They can’t see that what they take for granted loses them independents.”

Greenberg said the GOP has not adjusted to a changed electorate and is running toward a base that no longer has the numbers it once had.

“Republicans want McCain to keep running to the right,” he said. “This is a new map.”

Carville agreed, though he suggested that Democrats also have not fully adapted to a changed electorate.

“I don’t know if we’ve seen the full sweep of what is possible,” he said, listing a number of Republican House seats that are polling competitive despite received little or no money from Democratic committees.

Both said that, despite the tough environment Republicans face in this election, the McCain campaign was running a competitive race until selecting Palin as the Arizona senator’s running mate.

Greenberg said Palin has “changed the whole criteria of the race” by moving the debate from assessing Obama’s experience to change and reform.

“Attitudes toward Palin are now more of a factor than McCain,” he said.

“The Palin thing was just pretty dumb,” Carville added. “That looked good for, what, 48 hours? Seventy-two hours?”

The Democratic strategist also mocked the McCain campaign’s attempts to use Joe the Plumber to rally middle-class voters. “The reason the Republicans found Joe the Plumber was to find someone hanging around a toilet other than [Sen.] Larry Craig,” he said.

The bigger the margins Obama can rack up, the more irrelevant he can render the Republican minority. This is about a realignment.

[KrazyHorse]

What I'm waiting for is the upcoming civil war between Republicans who can think and the unwashed, know-nothing mob they've cozied up to.

[Q Classic]

The larger the margins are, the greater the mandate he has, yes.

The Republicans, on the other hand, are like the emperorrs who have lost the mandate of heaven...

[Zkribbler]

The Repugs definitely have to do some re-thinking about what they want their party to stand for. Right now, it's a hodge podge.

[Naked Gents Rut]

What I'm waiting for is the upcoming civil war between Republicans who can think and the unwashed, know-nothing mob they've cozied up to.

Won't be much of a war. We'll destroy those pansy big-city intellectuals.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
What I'm waiting for is the upcoming civil war between Republicans who can think and the unwashed, know-nothing mob they've cozied up to.

Already starting. It's Kathleen Parker, George Will, David Brooks, etc. vs. the Corner @ NRO.

Parker was shocked, SHOCKED to get death threats pouring in from the mob when she dared to state that Palin was unqualified.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut


Won't be much of a war. We'll destroy those pansy big-city intellectuals.

Don't even try to fake it, Drake. You know what you are, and all your posturing won't keep you from being first against the wall when the revolution comes.

[Seedle]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
The "culture wars" of the last 2 decades have managed to lock in a base of partisan supporters to both sides which drastically reduces the available swing voters.

Well, yeah. I should have said "scares" me rather than "amazes" me. But I am still somewhat surprised that there hasn't been a greater shift. I underestimated how many folks were fully and committedly on the right and over-estimated how many were just easily swayed by the zeitgeist.

[Naked Gents Rut]

Don't even try to fake it, Drake. You know what you are, and all your posturing won't keep you from being first against the wall when the revolution comes.

You forget where I come from. It's the elites who won't accept me, not the yokels.

[KrazyHorse]

I know where you come from. That's why you'll be first. Your ex-peers don't take kindly to traitors.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Newsmax has called me a commie, so I can blend in on the other side

[Q Classic]

Nah, I'm pretty certain you're the type to also have nibbled on argula once or twice, which means that you're one of us.