PETA just grossed me out!!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Mrs Snuggles
Uh, that's not what he's saying.

He's pointing out that your statements suggest --and can be used to justify-- the very same sexist behaviors that he and others decry.

Problem is that Kid can't notice when he's being made fun of and/or trolled.

[Q Classic]

No, I am following the own argument. You're the one who's alleging Elok's GF hates her own gender.

It's like ****ing projection. You hate your gender so much, being male and all, that you assume that a woman who doesn't necessarily want to be all girly all the time must hate women because hates herself--when really? Maybe she just likes stereotypically 'boy' things just because, regardless of your oft-referred-to comment that women are more 'sensitive' and 'nurturing'.

That's why, when you suggest that all women and all men should be more 'sensitive' and 'nurturing', it's profoundly anti-feminist.

You're wanting to remove her agency to behave and live her life the way she chooses.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Mrs Snuggles

Uh, that's not what he's saying.

He's pointing out that your statements suggest --and can be used to justify-- the very same sexist behaviors that he and others decry.

No, no. The fact is that men don't share equally in the duties of raising children. Furthermore psychologist have found them to be more socially irresponsible.

Women are more socially responsible. When men neglect socially responsible behavior women step in and do more.

Anyone who would call what I just said sexist is sexist, and an idiot.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Problem is that Kid can't notice when he's being made fun of and/or trolled.

Troll me all you like. Let's go to 500.

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by Kidicious
No, no. The fact is that men don't share equally in the duties of raising children. Furthermore psychologist have found them to be more socially irresponsible.

Citation, please.

Anyone who would call what I just said sexist is sexist, and an idiot.

I'm saying your language, and the way you've phrased your comments, can easily be used by those who are sexist to justify their sexist beliefs.

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Troll me all you like. Let's go to 500.

Yeah, keep calling us idiots. It's very classy. Almost like McCain in that last debate.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Indeed... women are more socially responsible and nurturing, so they should stay home and take care of the kids. After all, it's built into their biology, so men really shouldn't try to take over from their sphere and just be the bread winners, as they've been biologically programmed to do.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Mrs Snuggles
No, I am following the own argument. You're the one who's alleging Elok's GF hates her own gender.

It's like ****ing projection. You hate your gender so much, being male and all, that you assume that a woman who doesn't necessarily want to be all girly all the time must hate women because hates herself--when really? Maybe she just likes stereotypically 'boy' things just because, regardless of your oft-referred-to comment that women are more 'sensitive' and 'nurturing'.

That's why, when you suggest that all women and all men should be more 'sensitive' and 'nurturing', it's profoundly anti-feminist.

You're wanting to remove her agency to behave and live her life the way she chooses.

Ok, very specifically, go back before what Imran said and look at the context. It shouldn't be hard. Come back when you understand what Imran said.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Indeed... women are more socially responsible and nurturing, so they should stay home and take care of the kids. After all, it's built into their biology, so men really shouldn't try to take over from their sphere and just be the bread winners, as they've been biologically programmed to do.

Don't follow Mrs Snuggles diversion. You said that Elok's GF didn't like women because they are too sensitive. Then you gave your first of many

[Imran Siddiqui]

You are so ****ing dense!

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Kidicious
No, no. The fact is that men don't share equally in the duties of raising children. Furthermore psychologist have found them to be more socially irresponsible.

Stop speaking in absolutes. More men tend to be socially irresponsible.

Women are more socially responsible.

Stop speaking in absolutes. More women tend to be socially responsible.

The difference, Kid, is that a person, regardless of their sex, can exhibit behaviors not identified with their sex and have it in no way reflect upon their genitalia. When you say that women are more socially responsible, it suggests that women who are not more socially responsible are somehow not women. The same applies to men, of course.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
She's just trying to get women to break out of your socially constrained "secondary" roles and become more like the "primary" roles, ie, men

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Lorizael


Stop speaking in absolutes. More men tend to be socially irresponsible.



Stop speaking in absolutes. More women tend to be socially responsible.

The difference, Kid, is that a person, regardless of their sex, can exhibit behaviors not identified with their sex and have it in no way reflect upon their genitalia. When you say that women are more socially responsible, it suggests that women who are not more socially responsible are somehow not women. The same applies to men, of course.

I wasn't speaking in absolutes. You must have a reading problem because you always think that when it's not true.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Mrs Snuggles

Yeah, keep calling us idiots. It's very classy. Almost like McCain in that last debate.

I don't care about being classy. I've already said that I plan on making this thread go to 500 for the purpose of making you all look like as big of idiots as possible.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Kidicious
I wasn't speaking in absolutes. You must have a reading problem because you always think that when it's not true.

Raise your hand if you think Kidicious often speaks in absolutes.

/me raises hand.