The Change to Nowhere

[Zkribbler]

Once McCain added Palin to the ticket, he is no longer the candidate of experience, but he now claims to be the candidate of change. A Repug pundit this morning even opined that Obama's proposed "change" is now old school and that McCain is the only true candidate for change.

Okay, what does McCain want to change?

Tax cuts for the wealthy?
Our war in Iraq?
Our go-it-alone foreign policy?
Our ignore-the-mortgage-crisis policy?
Our ignore-the-credit-crisis policy?
Our education policy?
Our Iranian policy?
Our Israeli policy?
Lobbyists controlling legislation?
Environmental protections?

I know he's said he wants to diversify our energy policy, but he's missed all eight votes this year on alternative energy, and Palin vetoed programs for clean coal and wind power.

So tell me .... where's the change?

[snoopy369]

I would say he wants to change:
1) in part
2) in part
3)
8)
and don't know about the others, really.

That help?

[Kidlicious]

He wants to change "change" itself. He's a reactionary. If you watched the RNC you know that they want to get rid of the Democrats in Congress and put the Republicans back in.

[Zkribbler]

More specificity please

Originally posted by snoopy369
I would say he wants to change:
1) in part by _______
2) in part by _______
3) by _______
8) by _______
and don't know about the others, really.

That help?

[snoopy369]

Really. The Republican Party wants to get Republicans elected to Congress. Wow. That's, like, mind-boggling, man...

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Really. The Republican Party wants to get Republicans elected to Congress. Wow. That's, like, mind-boggling, man...

It's not too much change though. For decades, we Democrats have been doing everything we possible could to get Republicans elected to Congress.

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Zkribbler
More specificity please

I know he wants to cut taxes for the middle class further. I know he wants to make sure we have the right people in Iraq with the right tools to do the job. I know he wants us to have a more positive relationship with our friends overseas. I believe he wants to limit the effects of lobbyists (whether he says it or not right now, he has a history of campaign finance reform and such and I trust him to stick to that once he wins the election).

I do slightly adjust some of your silly targets, given they were put forth in a non-neutral way ... but they are not unreasonable adjustments.

He also wants to restore the dignity of the office of the President, which is a change certainly, and work towards bipartisan goals, which is a major change, healing the rift between the parties. That's why I supported him in the primaries, as opposed to the more combatitive folks on the further right ...

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Bush the second was also for healing the rift between the parties before the first election... bah you are screwed no matter what choice... you should vote third pary, all of US-ians who are smart enough to use the internets at least... (Wiglaf is excused )

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by snoopy369


I know he wants to cut taxes for the middle class further. I know he wants to make sure we have the right people in Iraq with the right tools to do the job. I know he wants us to have a more positive relationship with our friends overseas. I believe he wants to limit the effects of lobbyists (whether he says it or not right now, he has a history of campaign finance reform and such and I trust him to stick to that once he wins the election).

I do slightly adjust some of your silly targets, given they were put forth in a non-neutral way ... but they are not unreasonable adjustments.

He also wants to restore the dignity of the office of the President, which is a change certainly, and work towards bipartisan goals, which is a major change, healing the rift between the parties. That's why I supported him in the primaries, as opposed to the more combatitive folks on the further right ...

But he picked a social conservative to be his running mate and he wants to put more in Congress and the Supreme Court. How can you be falling for this?

[Victor Galis]

Well, if you look at what what Palin said in an interview, they want to abandon the policy of second-guessing Israel pursued by those hippie liberals in the Bush-Cheney administration.

[Zkribbler]

TAX CUTS Link

CNN has a chart on the effect of McCain's & Obama's proposed tax cuts. I'll be getting ~ $300 more from the Obama plan than the McCain plan.

[Kidlicious]

It's a political gimic. Bush is the most unpopular president in recent history by far. So people want change. McCain isn't against Bush or any of his policies though. It's deception, and it's against what made McCain what he is today. McCain built his career on being the honest, straight dealing, American hero. Now in just a short period he's ruined all that just to get elected. Hell, if he really stood for what he claims he does he would tell people to vote for Obama.

[Q Classic]

Actually, at this point in the election, I'm kinda rooting for McCain to win.

Not because I agree with any of his policies, or like who he's become. But I feel confident in my assumption that America is filled with idiots who'll suck down platitudes and deception from the GOP faster than a GOP senator sucks someone off in an airport bathroom.

And I've always thought being an expatriate had a romantic sensibility to it...

[Victor Galis]

Originally posted by Mrs Snuggles
And I've always thought being an expatriate had a romantic sensibility to it...

It does... sadly at this point, becomming an expatriate is becomming more and more difficult for me

The romantic sensibility is certainly there.

[Colonâ„¢]

Originally posted by Mrs Snuggles
And I've always thought being an expatriate had a romantic sensibility to it...

I might be biased but Antwerp is a great place to live.