Kim Jong Ill?

[Lancer]

[Alinestra Covelia]

Originally posted by Lancer
This might turn into a chance for reunion.

...with Kim Il-Sung, you mean?

[Lancer]

Edit: Just found this...

http://news.aol.com/article/north-korean-leaders-health-questioned/164781?icid=100214839x1209210391x1200534541

North Korean Leader's Health QuestionedBy PAMELA HESS and MATTHEW LEE, AP
posted: 32 MINUTES AGOcomments: 53filed under: World NewsPrintShareText SizeAAAWASHINGTON (Sept. 9) - Intelligence officials are watching signs that North Korea's unpredictable dictator Kim Jong Il may be gravely ill.
Incapacity of the man North Koreans call the "Dear Leader" would have serious implications for the international effort to get North Korea to abandon nuclear weapons.
A Man of MysteryKyodo / Reuters5 photos North Korean troops take part in a parade celebrating their nation's 60th anniversary Tuesday. Leader Kim Jong Il, the son of North Korea's founder, failed to appear at the festivities, igniting speculation about his health.(Note: Please disable your pop-up blocker)

There was no sign of Kim at a parade and celebration Tuesday marking the 60th anniversary of North Korea's founding, and the country's state media was silent about his absence. His last reported public appearance was in mid-August.
A Japanese scholar and expert on North Korea, Toshimitsu Shigemura, a professor at Tokyo's Waseda University, has even claimed recently that Kim actually died in 2003 and that the North has been using body doubles of Kim for public events.
"There is reason to believe Kim Jong Il has suffered a serious health setback, possibly a stroke," a Western intelligence official said, speaking on condition of anonymity to describe sensitive intelligence gathering.
Another official said rumors and reports of a possible serious health problem were based in part on intelligence gathered by other nations. That official and others who spoke anonymously did so to summarize sensitive intelligence gathered from several sources, and to describe U.S. thinking in response.

The Bush administration has had little to say in public.
White House press secretary Dana Perino said Tuesday that the Bush administration was watching the situation, but, "There's nothing I can provide for you now."
She called North Korea an "opaque society" in general, and said the world needs more information about it. "This situation is no different," she said.
A senior U.S. official said rumors had been circulating for weeks about the state of Kim's health and his control over North Korea's highly centralized government.
That official said the United States has no independent confirmation that Kim is ill, but that Kim's absence lends credence to reports that he suffered a sudden health crisis and may no longer be in a position to command the absolute authority he had wielded.
Kim Jong Il photosAFP/Getty Images66 photos (FILES) North Korean leader Kim Jong Il reviews a massive military parade celebrating the 55th anniversary of the country in Pyongyang s Kim Il Sung square, 09 September 2003 in this photo released from the Korean Central News Agency 12 September 2003. North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il has apparently suffered a health setback, "possibly a stroke," a US intelligence official said on September 9, 2008 noting he had not appeared at a 60th anniversary parade. The official said Kim appears to have fallen ill in "the last couple of weeks." Kim failed to appear at a massive military parade in Pyongyang, marking the 60th anniversary of the founding of the secretive Stalinist state. But there were no outward signs of a struggle to succeed him, the official said. US intelligence was "pretty confident" of its assessment of a health setback, the official said, saying a stroke "possibly is what it looks like now." AFP PHOTO KCNA/KNS (Photo credit should read STR/AFP/Getty Images)(Note: Please disable your pop-up blocker)

"What we do know is that he was not at the military parade," the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity about the administration's internal assessment of the situation. "That is quite unusual and reinforces a lot of what we've been hearing."
At the State Department, spokesman Sean McCormack declined to comment on the reports but did say the United States had recently seen a decline in "outputs" from North Korea on the denuclearization process, particularly on establishing a method to verify Pyongyang's actions.
"We don't necessarily have a good picture into the decision-making processes of the North Korean regime, but we can see very clearly outputs or lack of outputs," he told reporters. "Over the past several weeks, we have not seen outputs in terms of their agreement to a verification regime."
"We encourage, continue to encourage the North Korean regime to focus on that output" so the six-party talks on disarmament can move forward, McCormack said.
The health rumors began circulating in mid-August. Shortly thereafter, North Korea announced it was suspending the disablement of its Yongbyon nuclear reactor, a key step in abandoning its atomic weapons program that it agreed to take in negotiations with China, Japan, South Korea, Russia and the United States.

[Heresson]

good thread title

[PLATO]

So...who is running the shop over there right now?

[Lancer]

I was wonder who is the the next dear in line?

[Lancer]

Fox News just announced "Kim Jong Ill" on their graphic. Ha! I guess they watch the Lancer Show.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Lancer
Hasn't been seen in 3 weeks.

Six Chinese docs have gone to NK and not returned.

See, this is the real reason why house calls have become a thing of the past. You never know when the patient you're calling on will be some psycho Oriental potentate who'll get all hinky on you when you can't just wave a wand and "poof" they're better.

[Alinestra Covelia]

Wasn't it just a few months ago that the Dalai Lama was supposed to be ill?

I think I smell a conspiracy. Has the Dalai Lama EVER been seen in public with Kim Jong-il?

[ZEE]

Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
Wasn't it just a few months ago that the Dalai Lama was supposed to be ill?

I think I smell a conspiracy. Has the Dalai Lama EVER been seen in public with Kim Jong-il?

i completely agree

[Nikolai]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
He was/is a smoker and heavy drinker that had/has diabetes. You're not supposed to drink if you're a diabetic.

Wrong. You just can't drink without limits.

[Zero]

Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
Wasn't it just a few months ago that the Dalai Lama was supposed to be ill?

I think I smell a conspiracy. Has the Dalai Lama EVER been seen in public with Kim Jong-il?

well they both have that ridiculous glasses. put a wig on dalai lama and... walaa!

[Zero]

Originally posted by Nikolai

Wrong. You just can't drink without limits.

sure u can set a limit, but i ususally forget exactly what the limit was by the time i start drinking.

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by Nikolai

Wrong. You just can't drink without limits.

You're not supposed to drink. If you want to disagree, that's fine. The fact remains, he's reported as a heavy drinker. Which explains a lot.

[Agathon]

When that South Korean tourist was shot a few weeks ago, there was speculation that the ultimate cause was destablization within the North Korean ruling clique, and hard liners trying to push things their way in expectation of imminent change.

I guess we now know what that change is.