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    Loses at the two companies proved to be much, much larger then they originally let on. As a result the Bush Administration has decided to scrape plans to keep the two companies publicly traded and instead they will be seized, effectively nationalizing them (and their massive debts). These will be the largest bailouts in US history and it will get even larger.

    Fannie, Freddie to be seized
    Government's plan a bailout, officials say
    By STEPHEN LABATON and ANDREW ROSS SORKIN New York Times
    Sept. 5, 2008, 11:20PM

    WASHINGTON — Senior officials from the Bush administration and the Federal Reserve on Friday informed top executives of mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that the government was preparing to seize the two companies and place them in a conservatorship, officials and company executives briefed on the discussions said.

    The plan, effectively a government bailout, was outlined in separate meetings that the chief executives were summoned to attend on Friday at the office of the companies' new regulator. The executives were told that, under the plan, they and their boards would be replaced, shareholders would be virtually wiped out, but the companies would be able to continue functioning with the government generally standing behind their debt, people briefed on the discussions said.

    It is not possible to calculate the cost of any government bailout, but the huge potential liabilities of the companies could cost taxpayers tens of billions of dollars and make any rescue among the nation's largest ever.

    Under a conservatorship, the remaining common and preferred shares of Fannie and Freddie would be worth little, and any losses on mortgages they own or guarantee could be paid by taxpayers. A conservatorship would operate much like a prepackaged bankruptcy, similar to what smaller companies use to clean up their books and then emerge with stronger balance sheets.

    The executives were told that the government had been planning to announce the decision as early as Sunday, before the Asian markets reopen, the officials said.

    For months, administration officials have grappled with the steady erosion of the books of the two mortgage finance giants.

    But the declining housing and financial markets have apparently now forced the administration's hand. With foreign governments growing increasingly skittish about holding billions of dollars in securities issued by the companies, no sign that their losses will abate any time soon and the inability of the companies to raise new capital, the administration apparently decided it would be better to act now rather than closer to the presidential election in two months.

    The action would represent a major escalation of the government's role in private lending. The government would be assuming vast obligations it has historically disavowed, potentially using taxpayer money to make up for private business decisions gone wrong.

    In an effort to contain the most profound financial crisis in generations, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, leaders of the Federal Reserve and other government officials have in recent months upended decades of precedent. A bailout of the two mortgage finance titans would follow a Fed rescue of investment bank Bear Stearns in March and earlier steps to provide implicit government backing to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

    Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have backed 70 percent of new mortgages in recent months, but both have incurred vast losses on their loan portfolios as the housing market has tanked. Paulson, the architect of the plan, and other government leaders view the mortgage firms as vital to preventing an even broader financial crisis and economic downturn.

    If the plan is enacted, it would bring under direct government control two companies that have a long and complicated history as hybrid public and private entities. In July, with the companies reeling from losses and as fears grew that they wouldn't be able to raise new cash privately, Paulson gained the power to invest government money in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac through loans or buying company stock if he concludes it is necessary. In approving the authority, Congress gave Paulson power to invest an unlimited sum.

    Although the companies' shares initially soared on that news, their financial positions have worsened in recent weeks, along with their ability to raise money on the markets.

    If the government plan succeeds, uncertainty in the markets around Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could subside, making it easier for the companies to get access to funding at cheaper rates.

    That, in turn, could have a spillover effect in the overall market for mortgages, lowering interest rates and helping the battered housing market recover.

    The Washington Post contributed to this report.
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  • #2
    Oh, and we're now up to 11 banks which have gone bust with regulators saying there will be more in the coming months.



    Oh, did I mention that John McCain was on the board of this bank that went bust?
    Last edited by Dinner; September 6, 2008, 03:24.
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    • #3
      I think that combo private/public are the worse. It should either be all private or all public, partial generally is just the private side taking the government's money.

      JM
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      • #4
        Does this mean we're now shareholders of the US&A?
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        • #5
          Hammer & sickle

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Julian Delphiki
            Hammer & sickle
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            • #7
              This is a truly fvcked up situation.

              At least with this receivership, business as usual will not take place. The political influence of these two companies was insidious, and they have been spending big bucks recently to lobby the Washington establishment rather than sticking to their knitting.

              Now that the companies are considered failures, these companies will have lost much of their political influence in this town. Hopefully, their operations will be curtailed over the long run.

              As I understand, a lot of foreign governments have preferred shares in these companies. Those investments will be wiped out.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jon Miller
                I think that combo private/public are the worse. It should either be all private or all public, partial generally is just the private side taking the government's money.

                JM
                I agree. But not only that, the hold that the companies have on the political process is scary.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Oerdin
                  Oh, did I mention that John McCain was on the board of this bank that went bust?
                  Did you even read the article that you linked? Obviously, what you are saying is wrong.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #10
                    This is a better way to handle the situation IMO. They had to try something different here.
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                    • #11
                      wander whether this will skew the international perception a bit about investment in "safe" US institutions...
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                      • #12
                        Liquidity backstops

                        At the very least they need to clean up Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DanS
                          Hopefully, their operations will be curtailed over the long run.
                          Curtailed? They need to be nationalised and liquidated. Their operations should be non-existent in the long run.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jon Miller
                            I think that combo private/public are the worse. It should either be all private or all public, partial generally is just the private side taking the government's money.

                            JM
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DanS


                              Did you even read the article that you linked? Obviously, what you are saying is wrong.
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