Christians in India again - Orissa.

[Barnabas]

Originally posted by Cort Haus


Almost hilarious, the ability to deny the persecution of non-catholics in England on the same line as mentioning Bloody Mary who had hundreds of dissenters burned to death.

Why were there a 'majority of catholics' during her reign, I wonder. Perhaps the prospect of being literally toast may have had some influence.

You think all the catholics in England (all of the population) converted so fast to protestantism? It was a much slower process, Bloody Mary's reign was immediately after's Henry's.

In Scotland it was different, there calvinism was a grassroots movement, but the english were forced to be protestants.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Catholics and Muslims are both minorities in England.

Both have instigated terrorist acts in England. Which, of course, doesn't fit Heresson's logic of "If they're minorities, they wouldn't have started it."

End of story. You're both as mad as mongooses. Bye bye.

[Heresson]

catholic terrorists in England? Like when? IRA doesn't count. Nor does Guy Fawkes.

[Heresson]

I don't remember christian terrorists in India, as well.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Heresson


Oh, I just posted a random article from the net. I don't think christians started it: if You're a 20% minority in the region, and 2% minority in entire country, You do not want to start fights.

I don't know who started it. It doesn't really matter. I was just saying that the hindus have done this before I think and the police don't do anything.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Heresson
catholic terrorists in England? Like when? IRA doesn't count.

I'd love to know your reasoning why they don't count.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Heresson
I don't remember christian terrorists in India, as well.

They wore red coats and tended to say "God save the King, old chap!"

But as they were a minority they would never have started any trouble, right?

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[Kidlicious]

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[Heraclitus]

I think it is quite clear that Hindus are to the bad guys in this instance.


No matter who started it "convert or die" is beyond the realm of a sane response.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp



I'd love to know your reasoning why they don't count.

Maybe because they're not English?

[Heresson]

Exactly, they're not british, and their aim was change of borders, not any benefit of their faith.

[Dr Strangelove]

In Henry's day English Protestantism was so similar to Roman Catholicism that I doubt many ordinary folks noticed the difference. The only real change was that clergy were required to swear an oath to the king. Henry didn't even approve of the translation of the services and the Bible into English. It was under Edward that real changes began to be made. Seriously, how much protest to expect their was when the hoi polloi walked into church one Sunday and suddenly they could understand the services? There was also the tearing down of the screens which separated the sanctuary from the nave, and the removal of the phony 'relics'. By the 16th century most people had already figured out that there were enough 'pieces of the true cross' in the churches of Christendom to build a really, really nice house. There just wasn't much protest over these modest changes.

IIRC at about this same time the Spanish actually invaded Rome and took the Pope prisoner. The English probably thought that their insult was nothing compared to the Spanish. They also probably felt that the reason that the Pope refused to grant Henry an annulment was because he was a prisoner of the queen's family.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp



They wore red coats and tended to say "God save the King, old chap!"

But as they were a minority they would never have started any trouble, right?

Do you know how the British won India? At the battle of Plaissey the British were heavily outnumbered by the French and their allies. The night before the battle the British commander met with some of the French allies and promised them that if they kept out of the fight the British East India Company would keep Christian missionaries out of India. The next morning the French found 2/3rds of their army refusing to fight. A foolish charge of elephants into batteries of cannon sealed the decline of France and the rise of Britain in India. The result was that India was much less proselytized than other European colonies and its religious character remained intact.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Heresson
catholic terrorists in England? Like when? IRA doesn't count. Nor does Guy Fawkes.

IIRC the Pope declared a Roman Catholic fatwa on Queen Elizabeth I. By that I mean he actually offered a reward for her assassination.