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[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

Originally posted by SlowwHand
YOU wouldn't know.

You forget, Slowwy, that I was a Christian. Just cuz I ain't anymore doesn't mean I instantly forgot everything about it. Are you taking stupidity lessons from Ben or something?

You know, you can wrap a bow around a thread title and someone would take issue with it.

I am not gloating nor am I condoning going out and killing an innocent person.

I am mere;t stating in quite clear terms this person got what he deserved.

I am not cussing anyone

Nor am I being a smart ass to people who seem to find this necessary....or at least if I did it wasnt intentional....

I do wish however we could debate, it wont necessarily change my mind about putting murderers to death, but one never knows.......

Perhaps it is the fact I have seen pain and lots of it in my life over senseless violence

and then the guilty party is coy or smug about it

And I agree, this wont return the slaughtered lamb to its family but at least another family wont have to have its heart ripped from its chest by the same individual..........


If you are or are not a Christian, thats up to God the Father, his Son Jesus Christ and the conviction of the Holy Spirit urges you to profess your need, you do or dont is entirely up to you.

I do not believe in my heart nor have I recollection in the Bible that states one can murder and get a pass.

I am merely addressing folks here who chose to attack that card, I forgive you, but wont offer a viable option to "an eye for an eye"

I am not judging, convicting, looking down or making fun of any here who are not Messianic Jews, not Jewish, not Mormon,Lutheran or wha-have you....

I am strictly speaking about urder.

I even was asked if I found some joy or actually it seemed like I found joy.

Now,
I have been accused in the past of dishing it out but not being able to take it.

I am 110% all man and can take it.

But we dont need to go their, lets simply debate the issue about murder an innocent and what should happen to them......



and thanks how you feel, it bothers me a bit, but I can accept your opinion, you are certainly entitled to it.

I wont call you names, insult you as a person.

Thanks

Gramps

[Imran Siddiqui]

I do not believe in my heart nor have I recollection in the Bible that states one can murder and get a pass.

Isn't the only path to salvation, faith? (well, if you are Protestant, which I assume you are). Regardless, I believe if you are pentitent about your sins and confess, you can be forgiven for them, no?

[MOBIUS]

Yeah, even Slowwie can renounce being a Texan and Christianity says that god will forgive him...

[Wiglaf]

This thread is embarrassing. Apolyton has hit a new low. Every post is either wrong or childish. Everyone involved in this thread should be neutered and eliminated.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

I do not believe in my heart nor have I recollection in the Bible that states one can murder and get a pass.

Isn't the only path to salvation, faith? (well, if you are Protestant, which I assume you are). Regardless, I believe if you are pentitent about your sins and confess, you can be forgiven for them, no?

While still "rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar"..be it a tribute (tax) or Law, no man is above the law.

The Bible clearly states to recompense with a man before being delivered up to the magistrate.

We could trade theologies back and forth all day, one would say yes and another no to a particular view on what was meant by "wording" in the Bible.

and even others discount completly the Inspired and Written Word of God.

Yes even the most intellect and schooled individual could easily argue what they feel or perhaps was even taught to them........in even keeled rebuttal to what another man would say....


I feel in my heart that a murderer should be put to death....humanely as opposed to say stoning or hanging with off chance not cleanly breaking neck.

I have never "jumped for joy" but yes applauded a monster who was put down, yes, Stanley "Tookie" Williams, so what he penned some books on violence? That is good but his gang he had helped co found brought a shameless genocide upon his people, violence,murder,extortion,rape,drugs to name but a few.

But this is my view, I dont have a blog somewhere where I point and laugh at these folks, it truly bothers me how a human being became like these murderous animals they germinated into......

I have seen things many wont see, Outlaw Bikers doing things many here read about but couldnt fathom being up close and impersonal with.....

I have been to the home where a loved on is no more at the hands of these predators,seen the pain.....

This is why I truly feel in my heart, once a dof gites you, put its @zz down

Gramps

[Soltz]

Ironically enough, even Michael Rodriquiz seems to realize that.

It's a really broken world we live in.

[SlowwHand]

Let me add 2 more cents. Michael Rodriquez realized the error of his ways. I'll pray for him that God takes that into consideratron.

I've said it before, "Vengenance is mine, sayeth the Lord". What we do isn't an iota compared to what He could do. We only remove from society, based on laws.
He dictates eternity. There's a big difference. If you don't believe in God, then I don't understand your argument.

[Wiglaf]

My nephew is doing 50 over being habitual, capped off with aggravated car jacking. .

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=getting+capped+off

And jacking on top of it!

[Asher]

Originally posted by Wiglaf

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=getting+capped+off

And jacking on top of it!

Is there something wrong with his nephew being sexually active in prison?

[SlowwHand]

Thanks for the compassion. Don't ever say a ****ing word to me in criticism of any harshness you may feel I display, Wiggy. It's my nephew, and I say he bought into the game and can play his cards. Ditto the murderer.

[Wiglaf]

You want compassion? I don't even know if I have any nephews, nor do I have any idea of what a nephew is. Is that your uncle's bastard child? Or your cousin's mother's sister? I cannot keep track but I am willing to bet if I have a nephew he is probably straight and hot.

[SlowwHand]

I don't need yours, nor anyone elses, compassion, you dumb****. I'm a Texan. I don't need you. God will judge me. You can kiss my ass.

[Wiglaf]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
This thread is embarrassing. Apolyton has hit a new low. Every post is either wrong or childish. Everyone involved in this thread should be neutered and eliminated.

[SlowwHand]

This is how stupid you are. You quote yourself, citing yourself as either wrong or childish. Be gone. Your presence is no longer required.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll
I feel in my heart that a murderer should be put to death....humanely as opposed to say stoning or hanging with off chance not cleanly breaking neck.

I believe Jeshua ben Joseph's words on the matter were, "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone." You are also commanded to turn the other cheek.

To approve of the execution of another human being, regardless of how necessary you may think it is, is to disobey two of Christ's teachings.

Lest you think that "Render unto Caesar" means to obey the state in all things, the second part of that phrase was "Render unto God what is God's." If you believe in God, then what doesn't belong to God. Everything is God's, which leaves nothing for Caesar.

It may be necessary to violate your belief system in order to have a functioning society, but you should at the very least, be humble and ask forgiveness from your lord, rather than saying " to Texas for taking out the trash."

That, or you should give up Christianity.