It's war.

[onodera]

I wonder what we offered the US for Georgia. It seems the proud mountain country is gonna take it in the ass for the next couple of months or even years.

[Serb]

Originally posted by dannubis


Nope.

The good side in this conflict are the civilians of SO.

You are just another aggressive power-playing state. Not one hair better than the US.

Piss off.

We are the only ones who are trying to save them and to minimize the casuality rate among them.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Saras
its amazing what several years of no independent media and a lack of a culture of critical analysis of own government can do to a man.

Are you talking to me, or (more likely) you are taliking to yourself?

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by onodera
I wonder what we offered the US for Georgia. It seems the proud mountain country is gonna take it in the ass for the next couple of months or even years.

Probably "If you back Georgia on this will say respond in a reasonable* manner"

*Bomb oil pipelines, cut off gas to Europe.


Hey, it's what I would have told Bush in that situation.

[onodera]

Oh, look what I found. Khetagurovo was an Ossetian village.

http://milkavkaz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9956#9956

Scroll down for photos.

[Ramo]

Georgia would not even be considered for NATO membership as long as there were any outstanding disputes about its' borders, so as long as South Ossetia and Abkhazia remained in their legally murky state, Georgia was never going to get NATO membership.

Personally, I think the Georgians took a chance at settling the South Ossetian issue while they thought Russia wasn't looking, and were caught off guard by how hard the Russians reacted.

Yeah. The logistics are really tough here. If the first strike were successful, the Russians would have a hell of a rough time trying to send reinforcements. OTOH, Putin/Medvedev's power is largely based on nationalism. I don't think they could've been scared off by that easily. In a sense, it's probably a good thing that the Georgian offensive wasn't successful; that could've lead to a long and bloody conflict...

What I want to know is whether we ever hinted to Georgia that we'd have their back. I mean, they did have the third largest troop presence in Iraq. That sort of thing usually doesn't come free. If we did that, it'd be a **** up of the highest order.

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by onodera
I wonder what we offered the US for Georgia. It seems the proud mountain country is gonna take it in the ass for the next couple of months or even years.

I believe the deal involved a second round draft pick and a player to be named later.

[Combat Ingrid]

Serb is back!

[Serb]

Originally posted by onodera

Do you think we'll pull off another operation Saturn?

I doubt. Hardly we will invade Georgian soil, more likely we'll do the same what Americans did towards Yougoslavia and Iraq and keep destroying their military infrastructure untill they surrender. And I bet the terms of surrender are obvious now: South Osetia and (very likely) Abkhazia should gain independence to prevent repeat of the recent genocide. I have no doubt that Russia won't officially annex neither South Osetia or Abkhazia (not to mention Georgia, as some suggested). As long as South Osetia will gain independence we open Russian-Osetian border, sign a mutal protection agreement or a military alliance sorta we have now with Beylorussia, to protect South Osetia from any further attacks from Georgia and likely create some military bases there. De-juro South Osetia will be an independent state, while de-facto there will be no borders between our countries. That will be a united economic space between us. Sorta like that was before the Georgian agression with the only exception that South Osetia will be recognized as an independent state.

Also, WB!

TY. It is possible thanks to Solver (the guy who rightfully banned my on my request). So thank him, not me . I was an as$hole. Though I don't regrate about a single word I've said to the Lithuanian dude.

p.s. As for military aspect of the operation Saturn, no doubt that Saakashvilii army will be completely destroyed pretty soon. We have enough forces now and it looks like Abkhazia is willing to exploit the situation to officially achieve its own independence.
The Saakashvili's regime is history now. The jail somewhere in Siberia already awaits this bastard. I hope it wont be a jail in my city. We don't need his kind of stinking bloody butchers here.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And actually it has plenty of moral authority, just no power... kinda like the Pope.

Except that the Pope has no moral authority.

[One_more_turn]

Georgia is surrendering: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7552659.stm

[Saras]

Originally posted by Serb
Though I don't regrate about a single word I've said to the Lithuanian dude.

that's cause you're an idiot. a somewhat entertaining idiot.

[Serb]

Originally posted by One_more_turn
Georgia is surrendering: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7552659.stm

That's another bullsh!t from Saakahvilii (ok, call it a "disinformation").
His plan "A" was to capture South Osetia very very soon before anyone (ok, Russia) could intervene. If failed here comes the plan "B" - to portray Georgia as victim. Actually that was the same plan, Georgia both invaded and do their best to portray itself as a victim at the same time. And he had a clear indication of at least "information support" from his master (read US of A). That information support I can see now at your western new sources. They are biased, lying, and one-sided as always. Free democrats, my ass.


Saakashvilii is just lying again, his troops still firing at Russian peacekeepers and Osetian civilians. Nothing has realy changed. The war still goes on.

[Saras]

oh and you saw this with your eyes, fascist scum?

[Solver]

CHILL! Or are are you drinking too? If the two of you can't have a halfway civil conversation, you'll be taking a timeout next. Just cut the crap.