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And something that Bush has already done a few times...
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"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Obama will get them out next year. The way he's talking; he will need them for Afghan/Paki duty. The number 1 top military quagmire in world history is the land of the Afghan tribes. How many times do leaders have to repeat the error of trying to clear that up only to see their forces and their money disappear forever? Sweeping Al Qaida out of there, good idea! Staying on to create a new state; insanity.
No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
"I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, authorComment
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I guess I shouldn't bother voting then since Obama has already won. It's arogance like that, that could cost him the election.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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Hasn't it always been this way though? It seems that new ideas, weapons, and tactics generally only become acceptable after baptism by fire.Originally posted by DanS
Not really. I have been developing the gloomy opinion that truly excellent military leadership is the exception rather than the rule in our armed forces.
Petraeus notwithstanding, our military leadership appears inflexible to new ideas and has surprisingly little intellectual backing for what it does.
Not just the U.S. I mean everywhere.I'm consitently stupid- Japher
I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- NedComment
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Rah, some of us suspect McCain has very little chance in this fall's election. That does not mean the candidate is arrogant, necessarily. It also doesn't mean your vote is unsolicited. Don't take our projections quite so personally, you'll give the conservatives a bad rep for lack of a sense of humor or something. Note I followed my comment with a very bad policy Mr. Obama is advocating. May give you a clue as to my own waivering view.
No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
"I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, authorComment
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Exactly...We should all ignore the latest Rasmussen poll showing McCain leading Obama 47% to 46% among likely voters.Originally posted by Blaupanzer
Rah, some of us suspect McCain has very little chance in this fall's election.
In fact, there is no reason for Obama supporters to even go out and vote. You guys just stay home and plan the inauguration!
"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Wednesday, August 06, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows Barack Obama attracting 45% of the vote while and John McCain earns 43%. When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 47% and McCain 46%."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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That's an excellent question. I guess I had high hopes and a high opinion of the leadership of the US military, after seeing them pound Saddam a couple of times and doing more than tolerably well in WWI and WWII.Originally posted by Theben
Hasn't it always been this way though? It seems that new ideas, weapons, and tactics generally only become acceptable after baptism by fire.
Not just the U.S. I mean everywhere.
Is an excellent general (5-star type) always needed for the US to succeed against an insurgency?Last edited by DanS; August 6, 2008, 15:12.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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My vote means nothing regardless of what happens. No way a repug is gonna carry Illinois.Originally posted by Blaupanzer
Rah, some of us suspect McCain has very little chance in this fall's election. That does not mean the candidate is arrogant, necessarily. It also doesn't mean your vote is unsolicited. Don't take our projections quite so personally, you'll give the conservatives a bad rep for lack of a sense of humor or something. Note I followed my comment with a very bad policy Mr. Obama is advocating. May give you a clue as to my own waivering view.
My point was that acting like McCain doesn't have a chance, (some people were proclaiming Obama's European tour a victory parade) might turn some people off. Or better yet encourage some that were going to sit on the sidelines to go out an vote for McCain. Regardless of what the polls say now, November is still a long way off and the trend has shown Obama's lead getting smaller. (which has even surprised me)
Before the primary season I believed that the repugs had 0% change to keep the whitehouse. So I'm thrilled beyond believe that their chance is considerably better.
Leave it to the Dems to put risk back into a sure thing. Or who was it that said, "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" Nothing is a sure thing.
AND GOD DAMN IT, I HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR,
or god I hope soIt's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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If I recall correctly, this is the poll among "registered" voters, not "likely" voters.Originally posted by Ramo
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Wednesday, August 06, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows Barack Obama attracting 45% of the vote while and John McCain earns 43%. When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 47% and McCain 46%.
"Likely" voters go for McCain 47% to 46%
Looks like the Obama crowd is already celebrating!"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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I don't think that it is so much that Petraeus is an excellent General (which I think he is) as it is that he is an expert in counter insurgency tactics.Originally posted by DanS
That's an excellent question. I guess I had high hopes and a high opinion of the leadership of the US military, after seeing them pound Saddam a couple of times and doing more than tolerably well in WWI and WWII.
Is an excellent general (5-star type) always needed for the US to succeed against an insurgency?
Why we didn't have a counter insurgency expert leading things before Petraeus is the real question here."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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No, that's not the confusion. You were citing yesterday's poll. The latest is today's."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Ah! Okay. Then I stand corrected sir!Originally posted by Ramo
No, that's not the confusion. You were citing yesterday's poll. The latest is today's."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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We already know the reason for that. The army and marines want no part in counterinsurgency, and therefore have avoided developing a capability in it.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Indeed. Counter Insurgency doesn't get to play with all the cool toys."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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