Will CERN make black holes that will consume the Earth?

[Lancer]

They turn the black hole machine in Sept 10, in one month from now. The machine will create a black hole which with slowly grow through the years and consume the Earth in late 2012.

[Theben]

In late 1212? The black hole is also going to cause the Earth to travel backwards in time 800 years?

[Lancer]

I'm sorry? What are you on about?

[Theben]

Note to Lancer: DanSing works better if you don't wait 40 minutes to do so.

[FrostyBoy]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I'm flying to LA next weekend

(Going to SIGGRAPH, a computer graphics conference.)

edit: I lied! That's weekend after next. Give me a time and place and I'll be there

I'll be attending SIGGRAPH too, but in Asia (December), the people you are probably booking your hotel with (if you're not in Los Angeles) are our partners, based in Chicago, it's where I went for 2 week discussion.

I am one of the graphic designers for the Asia SIGGRAPH. Which I thought was weird coz I thought SIGGRAPH would have plenty of artists at their disposal.

[FrostyBoy]

As for blackholes, I thought it didn't matter what size they were, they will still suck everything in?

[Lul Thyme]

Originally posted by FrostyBoy
As for blackholes, I thought it didn't matter what size they were, they will still suck everything in?

Everything that passes their event horizon.
The "size" depends on the mass.

[Elok]

Originally posted by FrostyBoy
As for blackholes, I thought it didn't matter what size they were, they will still suck everything in?

They do so because they possess immense mass, mass far in excess of our sun's. I have no idea how anything scientists can make with a collider is a "black hole." Perhaps it merely mimics some of the properties thereof, emitting Hawking radiation or whatever. But as I understand it, there is no magic "black-hole-ness" property. They work by the normal laws of mass and gravity, space and time, that we observe every day, only on an enormous scale. Scientists cannot create an object with mass greater than that of the earth by banging a few particles together. Therefore, I'm inclined to believe (and all the physics-minded people here seem to agree) that there is no risk from these things, which in any case are highly unstable and decay in a fraction of a second.

More sophomoric answer: "Should we really be messing around with DNA, knowing that the A stands for acid? We all know that acid burns through everything it touches, just like in that Alien movie."

[BlackCat]

Now I know why we haven't heard from KH so long - he has been busy

[FrostyBoy]

oohhhh now I understand everything!

[Theben]

Now I know why KH's unemployed.

[Lancer]

BlackCat, that was the best RAP I've ever seen. Not saying much but still...

Guys, here's the concerns about creatining very tiny black holes. Even the CERN people think it might happen. Anyway, read this...

NOTE: None of the parties involved on either side are saying that this disastrous scenario will happen, simply that it’s possible that it might and more study may be required. The events described below are only what would happen if a worst case scenario played out.
We Won’t Know Right Away: After the experiment fires, even in the event that the worst case scenario unfolds, there will not be a sudden plop resulting in a black hole squatting in some chamber in the accelerator tunnel. Nor will there be any War Games style computer alarm going off saying “Black Hole Detected! Run for your lives!” Any number of microscopic black holes (MBHs) would be created, and they would be travelling at a very high speed. Since the MBHs are about the size of a neutrino, they pass through almost all matter, dancing between the individual atoms, without slowing down. The scientists would have only a fraction of a second to detect them and then they would go winging out of the chamber, even through the Earth itself, and out into space.
The One That Didn’t Get Away: Any MBHs which have escape velocity (something in the range of 250,000 mph or more) will zip off into space and hopefully become Somebody Else’s Problem. (SEP) However, one or more may be traveling a bit slower than that and would be captured into “orbit” by the Earth’s gravity. It would swing around and begin looping out through space and back through the Earth, through buildings… even through YOU with no harm caused an nobody noticing. (Remember the neutrinos?) Every once in a while the MBH would interact with a particle and absorb it, slowly increasing its mass and shortening its orbit until it eventually was orbiting entirely inside the planet.
Couldn’t We Detect It Zinging Around?: No. We’ve been looking for evidence of a neutrino (any neutrino) interacting randomly with any particle for decades. The results have been, to say the least, disappointing. Our chances of finding a specific MBH swinging around through the Earth would be effectively zilch.
When The End Comes, It Comes Fast: Hopefully Dr. Wagner and his associates aren’t the type to enjoy saying, “I told you so” because they won’t have much time to do it. The MBH will take some time to build up enough mass through these random collisions until it can do any serious damage. Estimates range from as little as five years or less up to a millenium. We just don’t know. But when it does reach a size where it can start quickly “eating” mass, it will begin carving out the center of the planet like a melon ball spoon. Dr. Wagner notes that we won’t have much notice… “possibly a couple of earthquakes” but by then the formerly microscopic but now full-fledged black hole will be consuming matter at a horrific rate, followed by the collapse of the planet down into a single black hole the size of a golf ball. And that, as they say, would be that.
We recently launched the GLAST Telescope which, among other missions, will search for evidence of Hawkings Radiation. This is one of the elements of the discussion arguing for the safety of the LCH experiments. Proof of Hawkings Radiation (which is still purely theoretical) would indicate the any MBHs produced during the experiment would “evaporate” away without doing any damage. Some opponents of the project would like to at least wait until the GLAST research is completed before attempting the LCH collisions

[Elok]

And your source is?

[Lancer]

Oopppss, sorry Elok...

http://themoderatevoice.com/science...les-part-three/

These are discussions that occured two pages back btw. I just had to go back 2 pages to get this from an earlier post of mine.

On the previous page to this there's a couple pretty cool youtube vids.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Theben
Note to Lancer: DanSing works better if you don't wait 40 minutes to do so.

You got so excited about the Earth traveling in time, you forgot about Lancer's ability to travel through time.