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    That's who this reminds me of, Michael in his tank.



    Baghdad Embassy has hands full with visitors
    Lawmakers yearn for firsthand look


    By Karen DeYoung

    updated 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
    When it comes to hosting congressional delegations, the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad likes to think of itself as the eHarmony of Iraq -- lawmakers outline what they're looking for, and officials try to set up the perfect date.

    Choices include visits with home-state troops, bull sessions with Iraqi parliamentarians, tours of urban markets or military training facilities, and briefings from senior U.S. and Iraqi officials. A trip to the shrinking front lines -- Mosul is the summer's preferred destination -- can still be arranged for what the embassy calls "tip-of-the-spear groupies."

    It is not known what itinerary Sen. Barack Obama has requested for his impending trip to Iraq, which will be his second. But if the visits of hundreds of other members of Congress over the past five years are any measure, nothing the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee will see is likely to change his mind about the war. Most seem to return even more convinced of the views they held before they left.

    "Anybody who came in contact" with U.S. operations in Iraq "would come away impressed," said Rep. Jim Marshall (D-Ga.), whose 11 trips put him in second place (tied with Democratic Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island) for most congressional visits, or codels, since 2003. To ride in a helicopter and to "feel the heat, see the dust," he said, inevitably lends some perspective.

    But "would that mean they think that ultimately we're guaranteed a victory? No. If somebody has been a pessimist about this all along, would their pessimism evaporate? Not necessarily. . . . I'm trying to recall an epiphany," Marshall said. "I can't."

    Even some U.S. and Iraqi officials found Sen. John McCain's positive assessment of the "surge" in U.S. troops to be excessive after his trip to Iraq in April 2007. After his eighth trip, last March, McCain, a critic of the Bush administration's strategy at the beginning of the war, concluded that progress had been made both militarily and politically.

    "It has worked," he said of the troop buildup.

    Rep. Christopher Shays (R-Conn.), the congressional record-holder with 16 Iraq codels, said he became certain on his third or fourth trip that "we had really screwed things up" in Iraq. That was in early 2004. Subsequent visits, at the rate of three or four each year, allowed him to keep track of problems with military supplies and skewed budgets. In late 2006, he said, Marines in Anbar province told him the tide was turning against Sunni insurgents before, he said, the White House made the case.

    Rhode Island's Reed, who is scheduled to accompany Obama along with Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), said the codels have been useful. "The more often I've gone, the more I've had an appreciation of some of the shifting currents," Reed said.

    What lawmakers see in Iraq, U.S. military and diplomatic officials there said, is largely what they want to see. Most codel itineraries are fairly predictable. "They want to see the leadership of the MNF-I and the embassy," said an aide to Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, referring to the Multinational Force-Iraq. "They want to see the leadership of the Iraqi government. If you have an appropriations person, they're more interested in talking to the logisticians or the procurement folks."

    "Newbies" on their first or second trip, an embassy official said, are the only ones who still want their pictures taken beneath the massive crossed swords on Saddam Hussein's former military parade ground in Baghdad, now a windswept expanse of cracked concrete inside the fortified Green Zone. While many of the visitors display deep knowledge of things Iraqi, embarrassing incidents have occurred. An unnamed House member, who met on a Sunday with the head of the endowment that manages all Sunni mosques in Iraq, asked him where he had gone to church that morning.

    Although the relative peace in Iraq in recent months has not slowed the flood of codels, it has changed their focus. Once-popular visits to the western province of Anbar, the site of heavy combat between the Marines and al-Qaeda in Iraq in years past, have fallen off precipitously. Hardly anyone asks anymore to tour the area southwest of Baghdad once called the "Triangle of Death."

    Members of the House and Senate armed services committees, who have averaged a trip or two each year -- the Senate panel's chairman, Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.), has made nine -- tend to concentrate on the military, while those with foreign policy assignments gravitate toward politicians and diplomats. Walks through newly pacified urban streets enjoyed a fleeting surge of popularity last year after McCain strolled through Baghdad's busy Shorja market, even though some war opponents ridiculed him when it became known how much protection he received when he did it.

    "They're all a big club and they talk to each other," one embassy official said. "They all want to do something cooler than the last guy did."

    Most receive a standard 90-minute briefing from Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker. More influential lawmakers are given an audience with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, while others are directed toward more available Iraqi officials such as Deputy Prime Minister Barham Salih, whose excellent English and familiarity with things American have made him a congressional favorite.

    The embassy is the State Department's only diplomatic post with a full-time legislative affairs division, and it is devoted almost entirely to managing the codels, which are closely coordinated with the military. The visits average at least one a week throughout the year, often with just a day or two in between.



    Carl Levin, a Democratic senator and the chairman of the U.S. Armed Services Committee, speaks with Maj. Gen. Mark P. Hertling, right, during a visit to Iraq in March.
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    I think lawmakers, all of them, need to stop treating Iraq as an amusement park and let the people their do their job. 1 or 2 visits a year for select members from the groups/committees directly responsible is all that should be required

    Just thinking of how many man hours Petreaus himself must spend placating wannabe military experts shows just how screwed up Congress's priorities are.
    Last edited by Patroklos; July 18, 2008, 10:54.
    "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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    • #3
      Yay, I get to agree with Patroklos (feels like it's been a while). It all seems a bit overdone. The security they must have to provide for these Congresscritters alone must be taxing.

      -Arrian
      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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      • #4
        Some national guard buddies of mine from Arkansas are in a unit that do these VIP tours and such. They see all kinds of people from Congressmen to singers over there. Apparently anyone who is anyone is getting the grand tour these days.
        Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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        • #5
          Yes, this seems excessive.
          Worst if it's policiticans going for photo ops or other campaign related issues. Going 3 to 4 times a year is ridiculous.
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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          • #6
            Carl Levin does look a little silly there. Is that what you were refering to Sloww? Or is your reference more sinister?

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            • #7
              He looks like an idiot. You got my exact point, along with the reference that was noted about people thinking it's a tourist site.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #8
                On the other hand, it'd be nice if Congresspeople went to see what is going on firsthand in Iraq.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #9
                  The problem I see with that, Imran, is that even the people visiting aren't likely to see that.

                  They might get a sense for what's going on, but they will still be insulated from it quite a bit.

                  -Arrian
                  grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                  The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                  • #10
                    Imran, they're a distraction and are doing it for the photo op. They increase an already hazardous situation.
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • #11
                      More realistically, they distract from the mission without adding any real value. The fact that they have been in a very safe part of a warzone getting the very same briefing they could get in the Pentagon is not lost on the officers and men in Iraq. Apparently, the pols think the folks at home will be impressed. I agree with Sloww, we are not impressed, and are in fact peeved.

                      We didn't have much of a safe zone in Viet Nam, so such expeditions were fairly rare in that war. Likewise, I suspect most of these folks wouldn't go near Afghanistan, where they really would be in danger. Hypocrites wasting mission time so someone can tell them they are important. What a waste.
                      No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
                      "I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, author

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                      • #12
                        we are not impressed


                        Aside from people thinking their Congressperson may be soft on terrorism if they don't go. That's why Senator Obama is going right now.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #13
                          Senator Obama is going because he is one of the "select members from the groups/committees directly responsible." Furthermore, being a direct contender for the presidency also puts him into that category.
                          "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                          • #14
                            I'm sure the military has people assigned to dealing with congressmen, etc., visiting Iraq, insuring everyone else is able to deal with the business at hand.

                            It's not like they don't go to other locations in the world where we have troops stationed.
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                            • #15
                              I wonder how sanitized their visits are?
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