Serb, can you explain this?

[Serb]

Originally posted by Saras


If you consider the efforts that Americans took to destroy countries that made up the USSR and its population as "their best", you have a very low opinion of US and NATO capabilities

Yes I have. NATO is only good for attacking and butchering population of the third world countries. It has no balls to attack anyone who can strike back.
Basically NATO is just a bunch of cowardly agressors.

Perhaps, just PERHAPS NATO was (and still is, outside of Yugoslavia) a defensive alliance?

And perhaps just perhaps I am a rocket scientist?
What about Afghanistan and to some extent Iraq? A defensive alliance, my ass.

[OzzyKP]

NATO isn't involved in Iraq. As for Afghanistan, remember September 11?

Remind us again how Russia was attacked when you invaded Afghanistan yourself.

[Theben]

Originally posted by Serb
Yes I have. NATO is only good for attacking and butchering population of the third world countries. It has no balls to attack anyone who can strike back.
Basically NATO is just a bunch of cowardly agressors.

You mean like in Hungary and Czechoslavakia in '56 and '68? Oh, wait, that was you guys. Quit sucking on the barrel of the gun, it's not a teat.

[Serb]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
NATO isn't involved in Iraq.

True. But some NATO members are there. That's why I said "to some extent".

As for Afghanistan, remember September 11?

Ok. Crushing the Taliban (your own creation, btw) was a good thing, regardlessly was OBL responsible for Sept. 11 or not.

Remind us again how Russia was attacked when you invaded Afghanistan yourself.

Hey, it was you who started this proxy war, not us.
Besides, we were invited not invaded.
Remind us again how USA was attacked when you invaded Vietnam yourself.

[SlowwHand]

Serb, no evil westerner will ever understand your perspective. Well, Che might.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Theben


You mean like in Hungary and Czechoslavakia in '56 and '68? Oh, wait, that was you guys. Quit sucking on the barrel of the gun, it's not a teat.

You mean like Cuba, Grenada, Panama, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Chili or whatever place you have invaded or installed your pet bloody dictator there?

Stop sh!tting me about how an angel-like you were. That's bullsh!t, man. That was a Cold war and in your sphere of influence you acted no better than Soviets did in their own.

[Serb]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Serb, no evil westerner will ever understand your perspective. Well, Che might.

I know

[Saras]

Originally posted by Serb


Then what was that, if not a riot?

It was a belt of unarmed civilians gathered around these buildings to nonviolently protect vital objects against an occupational army with tanks, APC's and armed soldiers. The army which the proceded to shoot and run over with tanks 13 innocent people. The same army which in your mind has not done a single wrong move in the whole of history.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Saras


It was a belt of unarmed civilians gathered around these buildings to nonviolently protect vital objects against an occupational army with tanks, APC's and armed soldiers. The army which the proceded to shoot and run over with tanks 13 innocent people. The same army which in your mind has not done a single wrong move in the whole of history.

Incorrect. Those civilians and the army were citizens of the same country. You may call that an invasion an occupation or whatever, but it still was a riot.
Sorta riot in Tallinn when unarmed civilians gathered around the monument to protect it against an armed police pigs of the Estonian neo-nazi regime. You cheered those nazis when they beaten and murdered civilians, didn't you?

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Serb

True. But some NATO members are there. That's why I said "to some extent".

Doesn't use the NATO Framework for the figh, though.

Ok. Crushing the Taliban (your own creation, btw) was a good thing, regardlessly was OBL responsible for Sept. 11 or not.

Pakistan created both of those, not us.

Hey, it was you who started this proxy war, not us.

Sure thing buddy.

Besides, we were invited not invaded.
Remind us again how USA was attacked when you invaded Vietnam yourself.

We were invited into Vietnam too.

[Saras]

Originally posted by Serb


Incorrect. Those civilians and the army were citizens of the same country. You may call that an invasion an occupation or whatever, but it still was a riot.

Perhaps the jews were rioting in the Warsaw ghetto as well?

Listen, I don't hope to change your twisted view of your country's history. I just want everyone to know just how hopelessly deluded you are.

First of all, a riot is

"2 a: public violence, tumult, or disorder b: a violent public disorder; specifically : a tumultuous disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons assembled together and acting with a common intent"

It was not violent, and it was not tumultuous. There is plenty of documentary footage showing precisely that.

Secondly, our country had declared the reconstitution of an independent Republic (that was illegally occupied and annexed in 1939-1940) in 1990. Soviet troops were occupational troops in 1940, 1945, 1977 as much as in 1991.

Sorta riot in Tallinn when unarmed civilians gathered around the monument to protect it against an armed police pigs of the Estonian neo-nazi regime.

In Tallinn your Nashisty were actually breaking windows and throwing stones at the police, who were trying to restore public order.

And spare me the partyspeak. "Estonian neonazi regime" coming from a Russian Putin regime apologist who thinks Soviet troops at Vilnius TV Tower and TV Center were policing a riot is just a bit too much.

You cheered those nazis when they beaten and murdered civilians, didn't you?

Who was murdered and who was beaten beyond normal run of the mill police handcuffing and self defence procedure? Source, please, and no, nashi putinjugend sources don't count.