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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


    My point exactly. If gay people aren't willing to be discreet, they should be booted out. I don't care what they do on their own time.
    Man, you really do act retarded sometimes.

    MY point was that gay people should not have to be held to different rules from those of straight people serving in the military.

    If straight people do not have to be discrete in the military about any life they have off-duty, then gays and lesbians should be able to honestly talk about their lives with their comrades without serious negative consequences.
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    • Originally posted by MrFun
      If straight people do not have to be discrete in the military about any life they have off-duty, then gays and lesbians should be able to honestly talk about their lives with their comrades without serious negative consequences.
      Actually, straight people do have to be discrete. If two people are so closely bound together physically that they can't be separated, they won't be able to perform their duties. That's not a regulation so much as common sense.
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      • If I had to kill somebody for making me laugh and ashamed to laugh at the same time, it'd be you, Elok.
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        • Aren't people already somewhat discrete? They may not necessarily be discreet, but...

          ...yes, what Elok said.

          It's too early.
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          • Thank you, I do my best.
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            • Sorry, just popping in. As someone mentioned the Greeks yet?

              When the topic of homosexuality in the militaries of Ancient Greece is discussed, the Sacred Band of Thebes is usually considered as the prime example of how the Ancient army use homoerotic or homosexual relationships between soldiers in a troop to boost the fighting spirit of their militaries. These bonds, perhaps somewhat inspired by episodes from Greek mythology, such as the heroic relationship between Achilles and Patroclus in the Iliad by Homer, were thought to boost morale as well as bravery.


              Last edited by Nostromo; July 11, 2008, 10:20.
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              • The navy has been experimenting with that for eons.
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                • Originally posted by Nostromo
                  Sorry, just popping in. As someone mentioned the Greeks yet?
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                  • Originally posted by Elok


                    Actually, straight people do have to be discrete. If two people are so closely bound together physically that they can't be separated, they won't be able to perform their duties. That's not a regulation so much as common sense.
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                    After reading dumb things said by others on here over a few years, such as BK or Wiggy, it's sometimes hard to tell when somone is serious with their dumb remarks or if it's sarcasm.
                    Last edited by MrFun; July 14, 2008, 17:17.
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                    • Do you pay any attention to the people on this board, MrFun?
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                      • Oi, Mistar Fun.
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                        • Originally posted by MrFun



                          You're an idiot.


                          Being open and honest about your sexual orientation in conversations with other people is not the same thing as having sex in public, in front of other people.
                          Discrete.

                          Discreet.

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                          • Originally posted by MrFun
                            You're an idiot.


                            Being open and honest about your sexual orientation in conversations with other people is not the same thing as having sex in public, in front of other people.
                            You actually managed to make me laugh out loud

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                            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


                              All superpowers renowned over the world for their impressive military. I'm sure when the **** hits the fan everyone will call on the Canadians to save them.



                              What's the last war that any of these militaries have conducted successfully? I can't see much of an argument that any of these militaries are a significant force in the world today. You are asking the US to model themselves after nations that have dismantled for the most part their military, I would suggest they make poor models for the US.



                              Wow, care bear countdown anybody. That brought tears to my eyes.



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                              Canada's military is highly respected over here
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                              • Peacekeeping

                                Ben's disrespect towards people who are more men then he'll ever be.
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