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  • Belgian collapse is imminent!

    The article is rather vague, but foreign media don't really follow up on Belgian politics so I couldn't find anything better.

    Government is unable to make decisions let alone rule, inflation is going rampant, budget is going into the red significantly, foreign investors are losing confidence, cooperation between Flemish and Wallonian is at an all time low, and on top of that Wallonia is having severe internal political battles too.


    world: send troops soon because tension is rising high as hell




    Belgian leader urged to continue constitutional reform talks
    The Associated PressPublished: July 4, 2008


    BRUSSELS, Belgium: Belgian Premier Yves Leterme's coalition partners urged him Friday to press on with constitutional reform talks between Dutch and French-speaking parties he said were deadlocked a day earlier.

    Leterme faces a July 15 deadline for a deal on more financial and other autonomy for Belgium's 6.5 million Dutch-speakers and 4 million Francophones. Ending the negotiations — which have made no headway — now will cause the collapse of Leterme's government.

    Although he said Thursday the talks were deadlocked, Leterme said Friday he saw a "willingness to succeed."

    But the slow-as-molasses pace of the reform talks has only aggravated an atmosphere of crisis hanging over Leterme's government.

    Dutch-speaking parties want to make Flanders — Belgium's prosperous Dutch-speaking north — financially more independent, notably by shifting corporate taxes and social security measures from the federal to the regional level.

    Francophones say enough federal powers have been handed to the regions since the 1980s and accuse Dutch-speakers of seeking the breakup of Belgium so they can declare Flanders independent.

    "This is not the moment to lose courage," Vice Premier Patrick Dewael, a Dutch-speaking Liberal, said Friday of the need to push ahead with the reform talks. "Failure is not an option."

    Leterme's government is a bewildering seven-party coalition of Christian Democrats, Liberals and Socialists from the two linguistic camps, plus hard-line Flemish and Francophone nationalists.

    It took office March 20 after six months of deadlock over constitutional reform, an issue put to special negotiations that began June 2 in an atmosphere of enormous mutual distrust.

    "It is tough (to negotiate with) the Francophones. Some think it's OK to keep saying 'no'" to shifting more federal powers to the language regions, Foreign Minister Karel De Gucht said Friday.

    Complicating matters is the wish in Flanders to break up a bilingual, Brussels-area voting district in line with a 2003 court ruling. Francophone politicians, who draw support from French-speakers living in Flemish suburbs around the Belgian capital, oppose that.
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    Re: Belgian collapse is imminent!

    Originally posted by Traianvs

    world: send troops soon because tension is rising high as hell
    Just give us some (remotely) believable evidence, or just a statement, that one side supports the terrorists.
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    • #3
      Some intel:

      José Happart: chairman of the Walloon parliament. He clearly has the features of an evil-doer!



      Michel Daerden: vice-president of the Walloon government and 10 other mandates. After the 2006 (local) elections he did an interview whilst being absolutely wasted. It's very funny if you know a bit of French PS: he's sitting there with his son who was also elected.



      And even more



      I found my first intelligent youtube comment btw
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      I do not yet have conclusive evidence of terrorist attack plans, but it's simply a matter of time before they come to light!!
      Last edited by Traianvs; July 5, 2008, 20:36.
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      • #4
        Re: Re: Belgian collapse is imminent!

        Originally posted by Will


        Just give us some (remotely) believable evidence, or just a statement, that one side supports the terrorists.
        Or has oil.
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        • #5
          It doesn't matter if Belgium has a blowout, wreck on the road, or even a total meltdown of all that is right and orderly in this world to Belgiumian people. It j u s t d o e s n ' t matter.

          So, don't let it bother you.
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          • #6
            FFS, there's no Belgium! It's a conspiracy!
            I'm consitently stupid- Japher
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            • #7
              I'm not falling for your trap.
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              • #8
                Wait, Belgium has a government now?
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                • #9
                  Stay focused, eat more sprouts.

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                  • #10
                    Inflation is going rampant?

                    Look at Zimbabwe, Inflation of 100,000% and still Mugabe is at power.
                    And Belgium is, without doubt, nowhere near this inflation mark

                    Addendum:
                    Looks like I have to put the numbers even higher.
                    The estimated inflation for Zimbabwe in June 2008 was 9,030,000 %
                    Will, be hard for Belgium (or any other country) to top this
                    Last edited by Proteus_MST; July 6, 2008, 06:48.
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                    • #11
                      I don't care what else you do, just sort out the damn traffic on the R0...I mean, Brussels isn't even that big!
                      Speaking of Erith:

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                      • #12
                        world: send troops soon because tension is rising high as hell

                        No way we will be involved, we tried that once in 1830 and look what it got us...
                        Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                        And notifying the next of kin
                        Once again...

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                        • #13
                          Damn, a civil war in Belgium could cause billions of pounds worth of improvement to the place!
                          Speaking of Erith:

                          "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                          • #14
                            Maybe we'll get lucky and this artificial country will be partitioned by Holland and France.
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                            • #15
                              NO!!! If Flanders becomes Dutch it could take me weeks to drive to Aachen!
                              Speaking of Erith:

                              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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