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  • #46
    Originally posted by Vanguard


    Well, I don't know about these carriers. But you might just be able to land an A380 on a Nimitz class under absolutely optimal conditions.

    The carrier would have to be moving at 31 knots into a steady 40 knot gale. And the A380 would have to be very light with no cargo and no fuel.

    With that combination, stall speed could be as low as 80 knots. So the plane would have a relative speed of only 15-20 mph when it touches the deck. You could probably stop in less than 500 feet at that speed.

    Of course it would be completely stupid. You are risking 5000 lives on the carrier to (possibly) save a couple of hundred on the plane. But it might be possible.
    A380's wingspan is 261 feet. You don't think that'd clip anything?
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    • #47
      Can anyone tell me why Britain needs aircraft carriers? I'm stumped. I can't see the Argies bothering with the Falklands again, and apart from that there seems no reason. To me it doesn't seem any more sensible than if Her Majesty's government had ordered a fleet of 5,000 combine harvesters.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Agathon
        Can anyone tell me why Britain needs aircraft carriers? I'm stumped. I can't see the Argies bothering with the Falklands again, and apart from that there seems no reason. To me it doesn't seem any more sensible than if Her Majesty's government had ordered a fleet of 5,000 combine harvesters.
        It's proven to be an effective tool for implementing foreign policy.
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        • #49
          The French originally were going to also build two identical carriers of the same design as the British but then they cut it down to one then delayed even that one. Instead of starting it this year they said they'd start it in 2012 but now even that looks iffy.

          Future French aircraft carrier - Wikipedia
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_French_aircraft_carrier
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          • #50
            The French have a nuclear carrier, so I'm not sure they need these oldschool non-nuclear British pieces of ****. Especially with gas prices the way they are.
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            • #51
              You're so right.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Mr Snuggles


                A380's wingspan is 261 feet. You don't think that'd clip anything?
                I guess that you don't need to land exactly on the middle so it's more like 130 ft and nimitz flight deck widt is some 250 ft. Though, I guess that the pilot would need clean underwears anyway
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                • #53
                  What's the distance to the conning tower or any other raised element of the flight deck?
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                  • #54
                    I don't see how it'd fit:

                    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/cvn-68-flight-deck.jpg
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                    • #55
                      I'm looking forward to the USS Harrison...or does it already exist?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Oerdin
                        The French originally were going to also build two identical carriers of the same design as the British
                        They were only going to build one, as they have an existing(relatively) new carrier in the Charles de Gaulle.

                        but then they cut it down to one then delayed even that one. Instead of starting it this year they said they'd start it in 2012 but now even that looks iffy.

                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_...rcraft_carrier
                        Yeah, the French are re-visiting nuclear propulsion for the second carrier, which looks more and more cost effective.
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                        • #57
                          Does the Charles de Gaulle have a really large, bulbous front to the ship?
                          Speaking of Erith:

                          "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Mr Snuggles
                            I don't see how it'd fit:

                            http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...light-deck.jpg
                            Body near the LAFL on port side should do it - as far as I can see, nothing is sticking up there.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Mr Snuggles


                              A380's wingspan is 261 feet. You don't think that'd clip anything?
                              Well, once the deck is taking off some of the weight, the speed of the ship might allow you to stop very short. Maybe.

                              Anyway, you can do it in Grand Theft Auto.
                              Last edited by Vanguard; July 4, 2008, 18:39.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Vanguard


                                Well, once the deck is taking off some of the weight, the speed of the ship might allow you to stop very short. Maybe.

                                Anyway, you can do it in Grand Theft Auto.
                                If a A380 is in such immediate danger that it needs to put down right now on an aircraft carrier, then it's still screwed, as the carrier wouldn't have enough time to clear it's deck of aircraft.
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