US Supreme Court upholds individual right to gun ownership

[Asher]

I'm no advocate of the ignore list, but I swear to God Ben is testing my patience. It's not that he's inflammatory, but he's the most insulting poster on this site and he doesn't even know it.

[Deity Dude]

Originally posted by Mr Snuggles
I'm no advocate of the ignore list, but I swear to God Ben is testing my patience. It's not that he's inflammatory, but he's the most insulting poster on this site and he doesn't even know it.

This coming from the guy that said he was done with this thread at least 3 or 4 times. HA HA HA.

Just as it is a compliment to get on MOBIUS' list Ben it is a greater compliment to get on Asher's Ignore List.

I wish you luck.

[Elok]

I don't care if smoking goes underground provided I have the power to sic the police on you if I so much as see a cigarette. Shut down the major manufacturers, turn over their fields and plant a food crop instead; tobacco exacts a heavy toll on the soil. Ideally you wouldn't see some POS parents smoking around their kids either.

[Asher]

Ontario just made it illegal for anyone to smoke in a vehicle with children in it.

They also made it illegal for stores to display cigarette boxes. If they carry cigarettes, they must be hidden from view.

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Mr Snuggles
By the way, did you look at the latest statistic?


Look at the UK murder numbers (in the graph here).

More statistics: UK murder rate is 1.1 per 100,000 per year, US murder rate is 5.4 per 100,000 per year. So as you warn about "violent crime increases" in the UK, why don't you do some common sense analysis and look at the difference in scale.

Be careful. The peak there is thanks to Harold Shipman. Those murder rates are also skewed by Chinese cockle pickers, July bombings etc. (The main point still stands, obviously).

[Felch]

Originally posted by Elok
I don't care if smoking goes underground provided I have the power to sic the police on you if I so much as see a cigarette. Shut down the major manufacturers, turn over their fields and plant a food crop instead; tobacco exacts a heavy toll on the soil. Ideally you wouldn't see some POS parents smoking around their kids either.

Snitch on a black market cigarette dealer and you'll get beaten with a lead pipe, if you're lucky.

Shoving non-violent behavior into the criminal sphere only creates more crime. Instead of having legal remedies for customers who fail to pay, or burglars who steal merchandise, black marketeers are compelled to take matters into their own hands. This results in increased overall levels of violence, and a great deal of harm done to innocent bystanders. Examples include the Volstead Act, and the War on Drugs.

Of course none of this matters to moralizing crusaders who hate individual freedom and liberty.

[Elok]

I don't "hate freedom and liberty," little W. I hate having to risk an asthma attack every time I walk by some asswad lighting up. And I have no problem with non-inhaled tobacco products. You want to kill yourself, and nobody else, fine.

[Krill]

Elok the liberal

[Elok]

I consider myself a moderate, actually (I suppose by Euro standards I'm conservative, but then so's Jane Fonda).

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Elok
I consider myself a moderate, actually (I suppose by Euro standards I'm conservative, but then so's Jane Fonda).

Opposing industries right to polute the air is liberal though. How do you feel about that?

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by VJ
Hey Asher, if you're actually interested in what kind of societal developement the liberal talking point of "increased gun control will decrease crime" eventually leads to, read up on how violent crime has increased in Great Britain during the last 10 years.

The politicians are now being tough on crime by talking about banning kitchen knives there, wtg

Are you talking about the increase in violent crimes in which knives are used ?

Exactly how is that meant to be related to gun control laws ?


It's difficult to see how one person could repeat the Dunblane or Hungerford massacres with a bread knife.

Or how Charles Whitman could have picked off people from his tower with a carpet knife.

But then that's a singular difference between a knife and say, a handgun, with chambers for six bullets.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Mr Snuggles


all of your stumbling around and attempts to avoid showing what punctuation was grammatically missing.

People who eschew the use of, gah, 'off of' aren't the linguistic and grammatical stumblers.

And who's avoiding ?

I'd just rather not give you any free advice, and carry on being entertained sans charge by your angry little screeds.

[Elok]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Opposing industries right to polute the air is liberal though. How do you feel about that?

Technically, I'm opposing individuals' right to pollute the air, especially right in other people's faces. And I have some conservative positions too: pro-life, opposed to increased government spending, contemptuous of affirmative action.

[Asher]

Originally posted by molly bloom


People who eschew the use of, gah, 'off of' aren't the linguistic and grammatical stumblers.

And who's avoiding ?

I'd just rather not give you any free advice, and carry on being entertained sans charge by your angry little screeds.

You are, quite clearly. You made a rip at my punctuation, then refused to support it. Instead you have now repeatedly made an issue out of a stylistic choice of using "off of" because you clearly cannot find any punctuation issues with the quote in question. "Off of" is what is referred to as a complex preposition. I'm sure you knew that and I'm sure you also knew that while it's not valid in the Queen's English, it's valid and quite common in American/Canadian English.

You are an immense, condescending douchebag about the most trivial of subjects. I hope you take great pride in your excessive snobbery, because that's all you've really got in life.

[Lorizael]

I want help with my computer.