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    When Ontario passed new street racing laws last fall, they were hailed as the toughest in North America.

    The legislation gives police the power to seize cars and licences on the spot if drivers are charged with street racing, or stunt driving.

    As of May 20, 2008, police had laid 5,139 street racing or stunt driving charges since the law was enacted on Oct. 1, 2007.

    But CBC News has learned that the vast majority of people charged under the new laws are never convicted of the crime.

    George Papazov says he's a perfect example.

    Last October, the 23-year-old got stuck in traffic on Toronto's Don Valley Parkway.

    He wasn't far from his exit, so he crept slowly between the idle cars on his motorcycle. It didn't take long until he saw the flashing lights of a police cruiser.

    "First thing he said is, 'Your bike is gone for a week,'" said Papazov.

    The officer seized Papazov's motorcycle and licence for seven days right on the side of the road.

    Papazov was charged with stunt driving and his bike was towed — at a cost of almost a $1,000.

    When Papazov got his day in court, the charges didn't stand up. Papazov was found guilty of making an illegal lane change and fined $600.

    OPP Const. Dave Woodford says what happens in court is not his concern. "My concern is getting those people off the road."

    Simply being charged with stunt driving cost Papazov more than $2,000 in non-refundable towing and legal costs. He said he had to sell his motorcycle to pay the fees.

    "Anything can be stunt driving," said Papazov. "It gives the officer the power, on the spot, to decide if you're guilty or not."

    More than 5,000 drivers have been charged since the law took effect but according to statistics provided by the Ontario Ministry of the Attorney General to CBC News, the conviction rate is only about 33 per cent.

    As of April 1, 1,080 street racing cases had gone to trial, with 325 convictions. According to the ministry, 526 cases were reduced to speeding, while 229 were either withdrawn, dismissed or stayed.

    Most fines for those convicted ranged from $2,000 to $10,000, but some fines have been as low as $200.

    Papazov says that means many drivers, like him, are paying for something for which they're never convicted.

    But OPP Sgt. Cam Woolley says taking vehicles off the road is the entire point of the law.


    "Ultimately, we've seen an increase in safety and really the best thing about this law is [the] immediate consequences."




    Sgt. Woolley likes it but Cam thinks cops do no wrong.
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  • #2
    And you're surprised by this?
    If at first you don't succeed, take the bloody hint and give up.

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    • #3
      Are you trolling me?
      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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      • #4
        It was always a terrible idea. It's guilty unless proven innocent, and you don't get your money back if you are proven innocent.

        The cops in Ontario are the worst I've ever met. They're the most haughty, insufferable, LOOK AT ME I'M A CIVIL SERVENT WITH POWER-attitude infused douchebags on this planet.

        Last week I saw a cop car yell at (I mean YELL at) this convenience store clerk whose car was half up on the sidewalk (to be out of the lane on the roadway) while he unloaded supplies for his store. Then gave him a ticket. Not an hour later, a cop car is parked in the EXACT same spot and the cops come out from Tim Hortons, coffee in hand.

        They're also some of the worst drivers on the road. They rarely signal and I was almost t-boned (well, I was still like 3-4 seconds from it) on Sunday. The cop was coming into the roadway without watching where he was going, he was looking right and I was coming from his left in the closest lane. This is like driving 101.
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        • #5
          I hate it when cop cars yell.
          "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
          "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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          • #6
            If a cop ever catches up to me, its because I decided to let him.

            Spec.
            -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Spec
              If a cop ever catches up to me, its because I decided to let him.

              Spec.
              Wow, you're so cool, risking your life (and, more importantly, other's) for this noble cause!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Wezil
                I hate it when cop cars yell.
                It's terrifying.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #9
                  Does it usually transform into a giant robot after it yells?
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                  • #10
                    Are you trolling me?
                    Not at all. However, if I was going to troll (which I won't lower myself do to) I would hope I would put a little more effort into then that.
                    If at first you don't succeed, take the bloody hint and give up.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lul Thyme


                      Wow, you're so cool, risking your life (and, more importantly, other's) for this noble cause!
                      I know, ain't great?

                      Spec.
                      -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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                      • #12
                        I love the comments:
                        I don't see the problem. Travel at a safe speed and be courteous, I guarantee the OPP will not bother you.


                        You LIE, sir. I was traveling at a safe speed when I was pulled over and harassed for no reason outside Thunder Bay a couple years ago. Over an hour of wasted time and re-packing my car with all of the **** I was moving.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #13
                          He wanted to hook up.

                          Spec.
                          -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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                          • #14
                            When I was 18 and the cops would catch people for street racing they'd usually charge them with something like exhibition of speed. Then they'd let them go. Their other favorite tactic was to find out where all the speed racers met up, for us that was the Ralphs/In 'N Out center in Mira Mesa, then block off the exit and require everyone to pass smog in order to leave since so many street racers had cut out their catalytic converters.
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                            • #15
                              You're not supposed to drive your motorcycle between lanes of vehicles.
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