How Long Will It Take For A Terrorist Attack?

[Sirotnikov]

I don't think there will be a successful attack anytime soon on US soil.

[Lorizael]

As a member of the Zionist conspiracy, are you using your inside information to reassure us of this fact, or are you attempting to lull us into a false sense of security to make the eventual attack that much deadlier?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by David Floyd
We did not, as you put it, provoke Japan. If we did anything of the sort, it was in response to Japanese aggression, some of it directed at as (see USS Panay incident, for example). The embargo against Japan was to discourage them from prosecuting an offensive war against China. They could have avoided war but avoiding war, simple as that.

Our government was more than aware that the embargo with Japan would likely lead to war. We went ahead.

As for Korea, of course we occupied it - would you rather we left the Japanese Army there? We put troop sin Korea to assist in an orderly transfer of power and te establishment of civilian government, both of which happened. The Communists didn't like the outcome - imagine that - so they responded by invading - again, imagine that.

Given that the Korean people revolted and overthrew the Japanese in the last days of the war, our occupation was unnecessary. In fact, once we got there, it turned out we needed the Japanese troops and Korean collaborators to help us take control away from the new Korean government. Since the new Korea government was largely led by commies, the U.S. has tended to ignore that they forced themselves upon the Koreans, not liberated them from the Japanese.

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
I don't think there will be a successful attack anytime soon on US soil.

I can imagine hearing this very sentiment expressed on Sept. 10, 2001.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Because as history has shown the millions upon millions of prosperous and free South Koreans would be so much better off under Northern overlords. You do remember Korea was a UN enterprise, right?

Oh, I forget, if it wasn't for all the capitalist interference North Korea would be a communist Utopia right? RIGHT

So invading Southern Korea, overthrowing their government, and killing hundreds of thousands of people is okay.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Yes, they are called truthers, who are summarily laughed at my many hundreds of millions of other people who are now laughing at you as well given the above statement.

It is demonstrably true that the highest levels of the U.S government were aware that AQ was planning on attacking the U.S. and they were aware that there were likely to be plane hijackings. Of course, there is no evidence that they were aware that the planes would be used as missiles nor do I believe that had they known they would have done nothing.

My theory is that they thought that they could use the hijackings as a way to build support for an attack on Iraq. We know they were looking to attack Iraq, and even in the days after the attack and it was clear that AQ had carried out the attack, they were looking for ways to tie the attacks to Hussein, and even well after it had been established that AQ and Iraq had only the most cursory links, the Administration continued to try and link them.

Please quote me one source from beforehand saying AQ wanted us to invade anyone but also Afghanistan specifically and destroy their one openly friendly government backer and unreachable safehaven.

They didn't expect us to win. They expected it would be just like when the Soviets occupied Afghanistan. I'll look for the quotes.

[Patroklos]

So invading Southern Korea, overthrowing their government, and killing hundreds of thousands of people is okay.

Except, as is true with most commnist history inventions, that didn't happen

I assume that by overthrowning their government you refer to the Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea which:

1.) had absolutely no claim to legitimacy, being a self appointed EXTREME minority or radical communists and

2.) was never actually in Korea let alone in control of it, being based out of China.

3.) feel free to find any source for these "hundreds of thouands killed."

The allies defeated Japan, we are obligated to administer all its territory after the defeat. But then again, I point to the prosperous democracy enjoying a high standard of living that is South Korea and the seething **** hole that is North Korea and once again you fail.

Some ACTUAL history for your benefit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Government_of_the_Republic_of_Korea

The government did not gain formal recognition from world powers, though modest form of recognition was given from the Nationalist Government of China and a number of other governments, most of whom were in exile themselves.

[Arrian]

Provoke Japan?

That's weak, Che. Yes, the embargo provoked Japan... a nation that was busily building itself an empire by invading other countries (no provocation there, no sir!). We refused to sell them stuff they needed to continue their wars. In response, they attacked us. That's pretty clear.

If OPEC decided they wouldn't sell any oil to the USA (we need that for our wars, no?) and in response we sneak attack Saudi Arabia and seized the oil fields, would you say "well, the Saudis didn't have to provoke the Americans..." and pass it off like it was their own fault?

-Arrian

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Lorizael
As a member of the Zionist conspiracy, are you using your inside information to reassure us of this fact, or are you attempting to lull us into a false sense of security to make the eventual attack that much deadlier?

I'm trying to lull you into false security, and I do it successfully using inside information.
once you are lulled, i'll quickly change our secret plans.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I can imagine hearing this very sentiment expressed on Sept. 10, 2001.

i don't have too much inside info.

it is my shallow understanding that the kinds of infrastructure needed for a similar terrorist attack are not as available to AQ.

Perhaps Iranian folks can do something, but I also suspect nothing serious and nothing on US soil.


Only possibility, IMO, is american based immigrants or american born muslims who will set up autonomous groups that follow the spirit of AQ.

but that's just my guess based on a very shallow understanding. so it's as good as anyone's guess.

[Sirotnikov]

at Che's posts.

You're almost as good as wiglaf

[GePap]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
You speak of years, GePap. Why do you assume it's not in the planning stage already? Even finalized, for that matter.

If finalized, why the hell would they wait for January 2009?

As for it being in the planning stages, what would that have to do with the next President. It is the responsibility of the intelligence and internal security agencies to break up any such plots. Failures to do so are the responsibility of those agencies, and if the plot is so good that it can't be stopped, you can hardly blame any politician for the skills of our opponents.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Arrian
Provoke Japan?

That's weak, Che. Yes, the embargo provoked Japan... a nation that was busily building itself an empire by invading other countries (no provocation there, no sir!). We refused to sell them stuff they needed to continue their wars. In response, they attacked us. That's pretty clear.

Because we hadn't invaded any countries at all, like China, the Philippines, Hawaii, nearly all of the Caribbean in the previous thirty years. It's rather a bit of hypocrisy for an empire to scold another country for trying to build an empire. Kinda like Rome chastising the Sassinids.

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by Arrian
Provoke Japan?

That's weak, Che. Yes, the embargo provoked Japan... a nation that was busily building itself an empire by invading other countries (no provocation there, no sir!). We refused to sell them stuff they needed to continue their wars. In response, they attacked us. That's pretty clear.

You opressed the Japanese imperialist war machine by refusing to give them oil! Don't get me even started what you did to other axis powers!

[MrFun]

Originally posted by BeBro




You opressed the Japanese imperialist war machine by refusing to give them oil! Don't get me even started what you did to other axis powers!

All Hitler wanted was Poland . . . .

honest!