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    Clinton campaign co-chair denies report she will concede race

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman rejected a report that she will acknowledge that her rival, Sen. Barack Obama, will have enough delegates to capture the Democratic presidential nomination on Tuesday night.

    Clinton said she was "absolutely" not prepared to admit Obama has beaten her in the race, according to Terry McAuliffe, her campaign chairman.

    Media reports saying she was ready to concede was "100 per incorrect," he said.

    Obama "doesn't have the numbers today, and until someone has the numbers the race goes on," McAuliffe told CNN, denying a report by The Associated Press that a concession was near.

    Clinton continues to fight Obama in the Democratic primary season. Some 61 contests over five months will end Tuesday as Montana and South Dakota hold primaries.

    Only 31 pledged delegates are at stake in those two contests.

    Obama is just 42 delegates shy of the 2,118 now needed to clinch the nomination. There are not enough pledged delegates at stake in Montana and South Dakota to put Obama over the top, but a rush of endorsements by the remaining undeclared "superdelegates" could allow him to claim victory when he takes the stage in Minnesota Tuesday evening.

    Superdelegates are the approximate 825 Democratic governors, members of Congress, and party officials who each get to vote in the delegate nominating process. Around 200 of them have yet to endorse either Obama or Clinton.

    In a bit of symbolism, Obama will spend Tuesday night at a rally at the Excel Energy Center in Saint Paul, Minnesota, the same arena which will house the 2008 Republican National Convention in September. Clinton will spend the night at an campaign event in New York City. What she will say is the question of the night. iReport.com: See what cartoonists think of the interminable race
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    Obama is looking more and more toward a likely general election matchup with John McCain, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee. And while not taking anything for granted, it appears he's starting to look at Clinton as less of a rival and more as an important ally who can help him win in November.

    "We're getting very close to the number that will, that will give us the nomination and if we've hit that number on Tuesday night, then we will. We will announce that and I think even if we don't, this is the end of the primary season, and I think it's very important for us to focus on the clear contrast that's going to exist between Democrats and Republicans in this election," Obama said this weekend while campaigning in South Dakota.

    "Sen. Clinton is an outstanding public servant, she has worked tirelessly on this campaign, she has been a great senator for the state of New York and she is going to be a great asset when we go into November to make sure that we defeat the Republicans," Obama said on the campaign trail Sunday in South Dakota, adding Monday in Michigan that "she and I will be working together." Video Watch Obama vow the party will come together after the primary »

    Clinton's road to capturing the nomination is much longer and more difficult. She trails Obama by 159 delegates and is 201 delegates shy of capturing the nomination. Her main shot at winning now appears to depend on a mass wave of superdelegate support, which seems unlikely. See what's next for Clinton »

    Clinton's been making the case for weeks now that she's ahead in the popular vote in the primaries and caucuses to date. Much of this argument hinges on how Michigan's disputed primary is counted. If Obama is awarded no votes, since his name wasn't on the ballot, Clinton leads by 194,000 in the popular vote count. If Obama is awarded the 40 percent who voted uncommitted in the primary, he's ahead of Clinton by 45,000 votes in the overall count. Video Watch Clinton outline her optimism »

    "The Clinton campaign is making every effort to convince superdelegates she is the best qualified and most electable Democrat to take on John McCain in November. The problem for Clinton is that it seems a little bit too late for her argument to stick even if these superdelegates did embrace her assertion that she is the leader in the popular vote," said Mark Preston, CNN political editor.
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    CNN senior political correspondent Candy Crowley reported that "only a handful of people at the inner core of the Clinton campaign knows what she's thinking about doing when Tuesday's dust settles, adding that "those who have been with her since nearly the beginning are saying she will not push this into the convention. As one close Clinton supporter put it, she's acutely aware of her place in the party. She will not ruin the party."

    Clinton scored a large victory Sunday in Puerto Rico's primary. It could be a different story in Montana, where Obama is ahead in the most recent polls. Obama campaigned in the state late last week, before stumping over the weekend in South Dakota. Clinton spent Monday in South Dakota. A new poll out Monday in that state puts Clinton up by double digits. But regardless of the results, Tuesday night is much more about the big picture than about who won which primary.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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    • #62
      It seems that OP was wrong!

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      • #63
        The very fact that we keep going back and forth shows the OP to be wrong and me to be right.

        What else is new with Oerdin.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #64
          Imagine that.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Asher

            No one said it wasn't going to happen or wasn't likely.
            DinoDoc did but I don't think many people pay attention to him. BTW it wasn't misleading at all especially since clarification was issued before either you or DinoDoc chimed in.

            The reality is tonight's speech seems to be classic Hillary "yes & no" type answering (which is a big part of why she lost). She'll admit that Obama has the delegates necissary to win and will stop actually campaigning but will not officially concede so that she can have a lever at the actual September meeting.
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            • #66
              Bottom line she's giving up and the rest is just spin.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Oerdin


                DinoDoc did but I don't think many people pay attention to him. BTW it wasn't misleading at all especially since clarification was issued before either you or DinoDoc chimed in.
                How is "Hillary to give up tomorrow night" NOT misleading when this isn't a known fact?

                "Hillary may give up tomorrow night" is not misleading, your title is.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Oerdin
                  Bottom line she's giving up and the rest is just spin.
                  I've no doubt she'll give up, probably tonight but it's not for sure.

                  What IS spin is saying something definitively when it's not definitive.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #69
                    Apolytonized threadi titles
                    Blah

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc
                      Poor Oerdin.
                      Yup, some *******, foaming at the mouth, attacks him repeatedly over a silly thread title. That's the guy who you should feel sorry for. He needs leash or to be put down.
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                      • #71
                        I will say I feel sorry for any guy with crystal balls like Oerdin's.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Asher


                          No one said it wasn't going to happen or wasn't likely.

                          The issue was you stated something definitively when it was not definitive. It's dishonest and misleading.
                          QFT
                          Unbelievable!

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by DaShi


                            Yup, some *******, foaming at the mouth, attacks him repeatedly over a silly thread title. That's the guy who you should feel sorry for. He needs leash or to be put down.
                            Yeah - Asher and DinoDoc are down right vicious toward Oerdin and blow some of the things he says/does out of proportion - almost as if Oerdin has been the first, and only "liar" ever on Apolyton.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by MrFun


                              Yeah - Asher and DinoDoc are down right vicious toward Oerdin and blow some of the things he says/does out of proportion - almost as if Oerdin has been the first, and only "liar" ever on Apolyton.
                              He is by far the most prolific. It's pissing me off.

                              He doesn't make thread titles without some lie in them. It's pathological.

                              The 48" Pizza is a great example. He desperately tried to spin that off as some kind of joke, but it's not. He lies all the time.

                              He even spreads this kind of **** to CG. I can't escape his lies and exaggerations.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #75
                                Hey, Clinton's concession speech just got uploaded online:

                                Unbelievable!

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