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I have to say that I don't always like the way freedom of speech is working out in the US.
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Why? Because every time you open your mouth people think you're a washed up hippie with insane views?Comment
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Do you want a ban on what you don't like, or do you want to give the gov the ability to ban whatever it doesn't like (and whoever just happens to be in the gov)?Originally posted by CrONoS
Anyway... I just watched these cartoons, and I thought about if there is things that can be banned. My mind is not fixed on this issue,...BlahComment
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You are talking about restricting free speech. That means the gummint, does it not?Originally posted by CrONoS
Who spoke about government here?
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More like they only see entertainment value in them, like most other speech in this country.Originally posted by Riesstiu IV
Why? Because every time you open your mouth people think you're a washed up hippie with insane views?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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No.Originally posted by CrONoS
Do we need law against books that is promoting disorder, rape, murder? (without targeting anybody directly)
Do we need law against the sites that I sent below?
No.
While I understand your position, I think you give too much credit to the nature of man, which is for me, naturally instinctive and destructive. While you can transform a man to a monster by publicity, propaganda, art(which used the same channel to influence human emotion) in a very effective way by less time than it could take to civilize the man again.
Man should have the freedom to say what he thinks and to be able to deal with multiple ideas and sort through to find out what he actually believes. Without that, we are not free and I cherish the freedoms of the individual (I am, after all, a card carrying member of the ACLU
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People have every right to try to to trasform a man into a monster. Of course, back in the 1700s, people who were trying to use publicity and propaganda to transform man into an agent against monarchy were considered "monsters".“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Originally posted by Riesstiu IV
Why? Because every time you open your mouth people think you're a washed up hippie with insane views?
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Agreed, certain people on this site should be banned from talking.Originally posted by Kidicious
I have to say that I don't always like the way freedom of speech is working out in the US.
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Originally posted by Asher
Agreed, certain people on this site should be banned from talking.
While Imran nailed the easy one - physical danger - there are other limitations on speech that people would agree to.
Libel and slander laws are the most obvious. There are also blackouts on sensitive wartime information.Long live the Dead Threads!!Comment
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Re: Freedom of speech
it should definately be marked as not work safe.Originally posted by CrONoS
Should it be banned?
Is there a limit to freespeech?
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I think the're should be a limit; I really think art can subtly influence yourself; the effect of art is vicious, as water entering a dam and take it apart, slowly but surely.
I do think that society is based on morality & civility. Which sometimes freespeech can trespass these things.
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If people think that promoting this website is.... offensive. Just said it to me, I'll remove the link!Comment
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I always thought that free speech makes a population smarter, but Americans keep getting stupider.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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Human beings are inherently social beings, who exist and flourish within groups. "Freedom" for each individual must be balanced against that.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Man should have the freedom to say what he thinks and to be able to deal with multiple ideas and sort through to find out what he actually believes. Without that, we are not free and I cherish the freedoms of the individual (I am, after all, a card carrying member of the ACLU).
People have every right to try to to trasform a man into a monster. Of course, back in the 1700s, people who were trying to use publicity and propaganda to transform man into an agent against monarchy were considered "monsters".
I would agree with the principle that people should be able to share ideas freely. But there is a difference between ideas and opinions, much as there are differences between reason and emotion. It is patently false to think that people are not affected emotionally by certain emotionally driven statements, and even today our laws recognize the notion that sometimes emotion can overrule reason, and that people may act out of emotion in a way that leaves them "innocent." Becuase of that, I most definitely support banning language meant to incite violence (we should kill them ******s! spics! crackers!) against others. No ones Liberty is inhibited by making it illegal for them incite violence, because the climate their ideas would form would be specifically designed to undermine any system in which Liberty could flourish.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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Inciting violence and hate speech, though, are two different things. I don't think that saying hate in a speech should be banned, but if it crosses over into the incitement of a group towards violence, then it goes too far.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Re: Freedom of speech
That is a seriusly ****ed up site. It dosen't even have any satirical value or anything.Originally posted by CrONoS
Should it be banned?
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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That is becasue it dosen't belive in evolution.Originally posted by Kidicious
I always thought that free speech makes a population smarter, but Americans keep getting stupider.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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