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    Another thread got me thinking about this. Do we really want a pres who will, at the very least, have a large check against him vs. every Muslim state?

    To point: Obama was Muslim. Now he is Christian. Under Sharia law, that's a huge no-no. It's kinda like becoming a Satan worshipper in the West.

    As President, I figure Muslim leaders would face difficulties from their own people if they engaged in diplomacy with him. The nutters would label him the Muslim anti-christ. Not that I'm so concerned about them (they'll hate us anyway), but I wonder just how much this would bother moderate Muslims, and what they'd say to their own leaders.

    We're at a delicate point with many Islamic nations. I think even a slight tipping of the scales would cause great harm in the Mideast.

    I'm actually now thinking of ditching my support of Obama in favor of Clinton, for what it's worth at this late stage.

    So what do you think?
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    Most won't mind. Quit worrying!
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    There will be a slight shift of the moderates towards nutterland.
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    There will be a strong shift, with some increase in militancy.
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    Muslims will flock to the fanatics. Lots of new recruits for the terrorists!
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    Frickin' fatwa+jihad, baby! Game over, man!
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    They'll embargo bananas and 48" pizzas
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    Doesn't seem to have phased Hamas.

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    • #3
      fazed, not phased.
      B♭3

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      • #4
        You guys do realise every Islamic extremist with half a brain is being quiet about this hoping Obama gets elected?
        Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
        The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
        The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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        • #5
          1. Obama was never a Muslim. Two of his grandparents were Muslim.
          2. No actual Muslim that I've talked to about Obama is the least bit concerned with supposed apostasy. Including really conservative ones.
          3. Being personally familiar with Muslims, having lived in a Muslim society and having Muslim family members is, not surprisingly, a pretty significant positive in the Muslim community.
          4. What ultimately will drive perception isn't demography, but policy. It's probably going to help quite a bit that he's more likely to pull out of Iraq, more supportive of diplomacy with Iran, committed to a larger increase in non-military foreign aid to poor countries, etc. than his opponents.
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          • #6
            Most won't mind. Quit worrying!


            The whole issue is being brought up by fear mongerers (sp?).

            Is there any source from the muslim world available where present day people have brought up Obama's supposedly 'defection' as a reason to oppose the US?.


            I hate to say the phrase, but if you change your vote because of this, then the terrorists have won a great victory.



            To point: Obama was Muslim. Now he is Christian. Under Sharia law, that's a huge no-no. It's kinda like becoming a Satan worshipper in the West.

            This is utter bull**** BTW. In no way a christian is comparable to Satan among muslims.



            The more I think about it, the more scared I get from the OP. Is this really a trend in the US?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by germanos

              This is utter bull**** BTW. In no way a christian is comparable to Satan among muslims.
              You are a bit of a fool, he wasn't refering to Christianity but to the act of apostasy, it is after all punishable by death in Islam. And according to Sharia law it dosen't matter that Obama never considered himself a Muslim, if his father had a Muslim father, then he is considered Muslim despite supposedly being an atheist. And if his father was Muslim (even if he became an apostat) Obama is still automatically considered Muslim.
              Last edited by Heraclitus; May 30, 2008, 04:52.
              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Heraclitus
                [Obama] is considered Muslim despite supposedly being an atheist.
                You seem to have a noncommittal relationship with truth...
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Thue


                  You seem to have a noncommittal relationship with truth...
                  Not Obama.

                  His father, I distinctly remember someone saying he was atheist or at least a non-practicing Muslim.
                  Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                  The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                  The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ramo
                    3. Being personally familiar with Muslims, having lived in a Muslim society and having Muslim family members is, not surprisingly, a pretty significant positive in the Muslim community.
                    Here's a fun fact: of the ten States with the largest Muslim populations in the US, three are swing states (Michigan, Ohio, and Virginia). It will be really interesting to see the political fallout if Obama wins these three states (and hence the election) by a margin attributable to Muslim voters.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Heraclitus


                      You are a bit of a fool
                      thanks. educate me.

                      And according to Sharia law it dosen't matter that Obama never considered himself a Muslim, if his father had a Muslim father, then he is considered Muslim despite supposedly being an atheist. And if his father was Muslim (even if he became an apostat) Obama is still automatically considered Muslim.


                      Could you tell me where I find this in Sharia Law?

                      And now Obama is an atheist? This is news for me too. Can you tell me where to find that as well?
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                      "I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by germanos


                        thanks. educate me.

                        And according to Sharia law it dosen't matter that Obama never considered himself a Muslim, if his father had a Muslim father, then he is considered Muslim despite supposedly being an atheist. And if his father was Muslim (even if he became an apostat) Obama is still automatically considered Muslim.
                        I've already corrected you, please read my posts.


                        Look at what you are quoting if his father had a Muslim father(this would be Obamas grandfater) then he [Obamas's dad] is considered Muslim despite supposedly being an atheist.

                        I've even edited my original post for clarity.
                        Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                        The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                        The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                        • #13
                          no one sensible in the muslim world will think Obama is an apostate, including the Iraninans
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                            Don't forget the fathers' fathers' fathers' fathers
                            Blah

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Heraclitus


                              I've already corrected you, please read my posts.
                              I do read your posts. It's not my reading that's confusing, it's your writing, as you yourself have shown.

                              His father, I distinctly remember someone saying he was atheist or at least a non-practicing Muslim.


                              And this is all the proof you need?


                              Now, answer my question: Make your case citing Sharia Law why Obama needs to die.
                              "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
                              "I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller

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