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    Good riddance to stupid rubbish. Don't join the military if you don't like sex with men or killing people in foreign countries indiscriminately.

    U.S. deserter faces deportation from Canada

    (CNN) -- A U.S. soldier who deserted to Canada will not face persecution if he returns to the United States, Canada's refugee agency ruled Wednesday.

    National Guard Sgt. Corey Glass, 25, says he fled to Toronto in 2006 after serving in Iraq because he did not want to fight in a war he did not support.

    "What I saw in Iraq convinced me that the war is illegal and immoral. I could not in good conscience continue to take part in it," Glass said Wednesday. "I don't think it's fair that I should be punished for doing what I felt morally obligated to do."

    Glass, who's still on active duty and is considered absent without leave, applied for refugee status at the Canadian border in August 2006 on the grounds of objection to military service.

    But Canada's Immigration and Refugee Board denied his application for refugee status Wednesday, prompting the Canadian Border Services Agency to issue a June 12 deportation order.

    The agency says it evaluates each case on its own merits to determine whether the applicant faces a "well-founded fear" of persecution or cruel and unusual punishment if he returns to his home country.

    "All refugee claimants have a right to due process," said Danielle Norris, a spokeswoman for Customs and Immigrations Canada. "When they have exhausted all legal avenues, we expect them to respect our laws and leave the country."

    Glass, of Fairmont, Indiana, says he joined the National Guard believing that he would be deployed only if the United States faced occupation. After he returned from his first tour of duty, he said, he tried to leave the Army but was told that desertion was punishable by death.

    Penalties for desertion range from a demotion in rank to a maximum penalty of death, depending on the circumstances, said Maj. Nathan Banks, an Army spokesman.

    "The first thing we try to do is rehabilitate and retrain the soldier to see if we can keep him," he said. "Remember, we're at war, so everybody counts. When you decide to desert, you let everybody down."

    Banks said that it is up to the deserter's commanding officer to decide on an appropriate punishment if the soldier refuses to return.

    Members of War Resisters Support Campaign in Canada, which is providing transitional support to Glass and at least 13 other deserters in Canada, are holding out for a political avenue of appeal through the Canadian House of Commons.

    In December, the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration adopted a motion calling on the Canadian government to initiate a residency program for conscientious objectors who have left military service "related to a war not sanctioned by the United Nations."

    The motion has yet to receive approval from the entire House of Commons.

    Norris says the agency has received about 40 applications for refugee claims from U.S. deserters since the Iraq war began in 2003. Of the claims that have been addressed in public, only five have made it to the country's Federal Court of Appeals, a venue of last resort.

    All five appeals were rejected, according to Norris.

    The high court has yet to rule on its sixth challenge of this kind from Army combat engineer Joshua Key, who fled to Saskatchewan with his wife and four children in 2005.

    "This has been our home for three years now. It's a lot like the U.S., and it's as close to the U.S. as you can be," said Key, who served on the front lines in Falluja before he returned to the United States in 2002.

    Key said that fleeing to Canada was a difficult but obvious choice when faced with returning to Iraq.

    "There was nothing but violence and innocent civilians dying in our hands for no justification," Key said. "We became the terrorists."
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    You don't have to like either one of them to enlist.
    As far as military, including National Guard, hope for the best and expect the worst.
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    • #3
      How ungrateful! He gets a free trip, gets to meet new people, and see new places! How many other people can say that?

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      • #4
        A U.S. soldier who deserted to Canada will not face persecution if he returns to the United States, Canada's refugee agency ruled Wednesday.
        CNN's hippy liberal editors need to get off it. Prosecution, not persecution. This son of a ***** Sergeant should be nutted in the **** until it bleeds instead of pees, if you follow my meaning.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Wiglaf


          CNN's hippy liberal editors need to get off it. Prosecution, not persecution. This son of a ***** Sergeant should be nutted in the **** until it bleeds instead of pees, if you follow my meaning.
          No, numbnuts, persecution. He will be prosecuted; but the judge has ruled that such prosecution would not constitute persecution.

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          • #6
            Asher - He's not a draft dodger. He would probably be allowed to stay if he was.
            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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            • #7
              You kind of have to have a draft going on to dodge it. Do all these people refusing to go object to the US government recouping thier wages from their time in? Something tells me they would.
              "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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              • #8
                In fairness to Asher he did say "Wannabe draft dodger". I think he knows the difference but the title is somewhat misleading.

                Enlisted people don't get to argue they were forced into service.
                "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                • #9
                  Re: Wannabe Draft Dodger To Be Deported

                  Originally posted by Asher
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                  "The first thing we try to do is rehabilitate and retrain the soldier to see if we can keep him,"
                  **** that! This isnt drunk-and-passed-out-in-a-gay brothel kinda AWOL. This is desertion. Hang him.
                  We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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                  • #10
                    In fairness to Asher he did say "Wannabe draft dodger".
                    Ah, I see that now. Asher

                    Out of curiosity, do you guts know what did Canada do with deserters in pevious wars?
                    "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Wezil
                      Asher - He's not a draft dodger. He would probably be allowed to stay if he was.
                      That's the big difference between the Vietnam era and now in my mind. When the draft was in effect you had to go even if you disagreed but now you volunteer. He volunteered and gave his word then broke it.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Wezil
                        In fairness to Asher he did say "Wannabe draft dodger". I think he knows the difference but the title is somewhat misleading.

                        Enlisted people don't get to argue they were forced into service.
                        I very clearly said wannabe draft dodger, he's not a real one. He's just harkening back to the old days and failing.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Patroklos
                          Out of curiosity, do you guts know what did Canada do with deserters in pevious wars?
                          When were teh Pevious Wars, and why would my guts know anything about them?
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                          • #14
                            Asher - Yes, you are deserving of the doubt. I assumed (eek) that you were well aware.


                            Originally posted by Patroklos
                            Out of curiosity, do you guts know what did Canada do with deserters in pevious wars?
                            I presume you mean deserters from our army not yours?

                            Good question. I can't say for sure (and a google search gets cluttered by articles about US deserters currently in Canada...) but off the top of my head I do believe the last execution for desertion was in WW1. I suppose they are jailed now but as we don't engage in a lot of aggressive warfare it really isn't a huge issue. I haven't heard of any Candian deserters wrt Afghanistan for instance.
                            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                            • #15
                              wiki says this (under the discussion of capital punishment in Canada)

                              During the First World War, 25 Canadian soldiers were executed. Most were shot for service offences such as desertion and cowardice, but two executions were for murder. For details of these see Canadian soldiers executed in first world war.

                              One Canadian soldier, Pte. Harold Pringle, was executed during the Second World War for murder.
                              "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                              "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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