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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala


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    • #32
      I've been touch-typing on qwerty for over 35 years.
      No way would I change.
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      • #33
        There's really no string reason to learning Dvorak. It would be like burning your home movies to HD disks rather than BLuRay.
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        • #34
          Still using azerty here. Yet another legacy of the French imperialist oppression that reigned over our lands
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          • #35
            Aren'd Belgians basically Frenchmen and Germans? (both the swamp and normal variety)

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            The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Heraclitus
              Aren't Belgians basically Frenchmen and Germans? (both the swamp and normal variety)

              I think most western Europeans qualify for that description.
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              • #37
                teh people demand an update from the lovely OP!

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                • #38
                  A little faster but still pretty damn slow. I do not have a Dvorak keyboard so it requires memorization for any and all progress.

                  Strangely, the startup password is still in QWERTY, which is a lucky thing because I need access to the sodding computer to suss out the key positions.
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                  • #39
                    Dvorak doesn't kick in until after Windows starts up, indeed; though if you have a screensaver password, that will be in Dvorak. You could make the BIOS recognize Dvorak, I think, but it's more work than necessary
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Lancer
                      Dvorak is a lucky man.
                      Not if smilies are very hard. Plus it's taking her time to finger out all the key positions.
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                      • #41
                        I've learnt to touch-type in Russian (with Russian keyboard layout) in the space of about a month. So I reckon, if I can do that, anyone can learn to touch type different keyboard configurations.
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                        • #42
                          So I reckon, if I can do that, anyone can learn to touch type different keyboard configurations.
                          The problem is touch typing doesn't work as well as you'd expect when you switch computers, using for instance a Dvorak laptop at home, an azerty keyboard at work on your desktop, and sometimes qwerty or azerty laptops at work.
                          I already type , instead of m often enough because my hands were typing in qwerty and I was on an azerty box for instance. And laptops usually manage to have slightly different layouts for a few keys (although it's often stuff like home/arrow keys, it still manages to be a pain sometimes).
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                          • #43
                            Touch typing between Dvorak and QWERTY is quite easy, I do it all the time home vs. work... azerty might be harder as it's a more similar layout?? Dunno. I rarely make a mistake unless I forget which layout I'm on.
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                            • #44
                              I often get " and @ mixed up when switching between keyboard layouts on different machines.
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                              • #45
                                azerty and qwerty are almost similar except for az/qw and m/n. There are also some weird differences like . and the figures requiring shift. This makes it very easy to forget which keyboard you're using. I didn't have that problem with a dvorak, but couldn't ever learn where the special characters were (\,{,[...) or how to type é for instance.
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