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    Amazon sues New York over Amazon Tax

    Amazon has sued New York over an ingenious new law that would force the mega online retailer to collect taxes it doesn't like collecting.

    Last week, New York Governor David Paterson rubber stamped a $122bn state budget that enshrines what everyone is calling The Amazon Tax. Paterson and his state legislature have decreed that Amazon and other online retailers must collect New York sales tax even if they don't maintain warehouses or offices in the state.

    Thanks to a pre-Internet-revolution Supreme Court case involving a mail order catalog business, American e-tailers are required to collect sales tax only if they have a "physical presence" in the state where a customer resides. Otherwise, federal law says, the customer must declare the purchase on his next tax return.

    Of course, few customers remember to do so. If remember is the right word.

    With their new law, Paterson and company argue that "affiliate marketers" count as a physical presence. You know, affiliate marketers - independent web sites that drive traffic to Amazon and other e-tailers in exchange for a cut of their profits.

    Like we said: ingenious. New York expects to collect an additional $50m through the new law.

    But Amazon doesn't like The Amazon Tax. It would hurt the bottom line. If Amazon customers can't, um, save on sales tax, they may go elsewhere. So the world's largest retailer has promptly sued the Empire State. Thanks to Wired, you can view the suit here (PDF).

    Amazon is adamant that The Amazon Tax is constitutionally unsound. The company argues that the new statue is "overly broad and vague" and that it violates the equal protection clauses in both the New York and US Constitutions by intentionally targeting Amazon.

    We say that New York has a right to its tax money. ®




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    New York

    Amazon
    THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
    AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
    AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
    DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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    • #3
      btw, since amazon affiliates exist all over the world, amazon should collect taxes no matter what
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      • #4
        Amazon should be teh World Government.
        THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
        AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
        AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
        DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LordShiva
          Amazon should be teh World Government.
          that's Google's job
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          • #6
            Along with Google, eBay, Facebook...

            EDIT: Gah, xpost!
            1011 1100
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            • #7
              I have to state that I receive free two day shipping from these people for like $50 a year. This is insanely awesome and as a result I only buy things from either Amazon or the supermarket.

              I want to make something clear to you people: New York is still recovering from 9/11 and they have a relatively stupid, whorish, blind, black governor so they think they can get away with anything. Facts are facts, fiction is fiction, and the idea that New York drives traffic to Amazon is like saying I drive traffic to the zoo. I don't.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Wiglaf
                I only buy things from either Amazon or the supermarket.


                And now that Amazon stocks groceries, I hardly ever go to teh supermarket.
                THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                • #9
                  Couldn't it be difficult for Amazon to know who is buying things from New York or from other states? They would have to look at addresses on the credit card (but this doesn't work), or ask for your address and hope you don't lie.

                  JM
                  Jon Miller-
                  I AM.CANADIAN
                  GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jon Miller
                    Couldn't it be difficult for Amazon to know who is buying things from New York or from other states? They would have to look at addresses on the credit card (but this doesn't work), or ask for your address and hope you don't lie.

                    JM
                    ??? If they're buying things to be delivered to their houses, there's not much point in lying and getting it sent to another state, is there?
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                    • #11
                      I thought this would be funny, like people from Lesbos suing over the word lesbian.
                      B♭3

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Elok


                        ??? If they're buying things to be delivered to their houses, there's not much point in lying and getting it sent to another state, is there?
                        If I buy a gift for my freind in NY, why should I pay NY sales tax just because I bought it online? I wouldn't pay New York sales tax if I bought it at my local store...

                        JM
                        Jon Miller-
                        I AM.CANADIAN
                        GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Wiglaf
                          I have to state that I receive free two day shipping from these people for like $50 a year. This is insanely awesome and as a result I only buy things from either Amazon or the supermarket.

                          I want to make something clear to you people: New York is still recovering from 9/11 and they have a relatively stupid, whorish, blind, black governor so they think they can get away with anything. Facts are facts, fiction is fiction, and the idea that New York drives traffic to Amazon is like saying I drive traffic to the zoo. I don't.
                          Wiglaf, that actually made sense
                          You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                          • #14
                            Penis *giggle*
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                            "Capitalism ho!"

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                            • #15
                              Ooo, a penis-joke.
                              I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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