The economy may suck, but not for Apple

[-Jrabbit]

Spin is part of the game for any public company. SOP.

[Dinner]

I honestly don't know why people would buy a Mac and while +1.1% of market is big for Apple it's not really that big of a slice. I can only imagine that lots of established users are upgrading and a few people who bought Ipods or Iphones are now switching over to Mac. Still that leaves 94% of the market people other then Apple (which basically means IBM PCs).

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon


He can waste his time if he wants. I'm not reading any of that bull****.

It's gotten to the point where I don't need to respond to your posts. No one takes anything you say seriously here anyway.

I just read it and smiled. I like it when you pretend to know something about the field, it's kind of cute.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Mercator
Hasn't there been an MS Office for Mac for ages? And Wikipedia says Windows interoperability was increased with the release of Panther, before the switch to Intel. So if there were any fears, and Apple allayed those fears, then isn't that again marketing rather than the actual switch to Intel?

I mean, I'm sure the switch to Intel has massive technical benefits for Apple, certainly in the long run, and I can see why tech-savvy people welcome it, but I can't really see how that switch has anything to do with a 50% increase in sales right now.

(On the other hand, I'm not sure why the hell I even jumped on this in the first place.)

As a side note, some people here will probably remember me entering into technical debates with Agathon regarding the G4/G5 vs x86. It's actually amazing how quickly he changed his tune when Steve Jobs told him x86 was the way to go.

[Asher]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
MS Office for Mac has been around for quite awhile, but two things are changed:

1, The 2004 and 2008 Mac editions are MUCH more cross-compatible with their MS counterparts, especially in PPT. (There are still some missing elements between email clients, Entourage and Outlook. The MS suite is overall still more full-featured.)

2. Apple stopped trying to push their Appleworks package as a substitute for Office. Now they offer Office for Mac and strongly encourage it with "student" pricing.

As a result, MS now actively supports their "for Mac" version, which was never the case previously.

You leave out the fact that MS removed VBA for Office 08. That makes it effectively useless for most business users.

Strategery.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Agathon
Microsoft took a pounding today. They claim that lower sales was due to increased piracy of Vista.

George Bush would be ashamed of that lie.

It's mostly because people have decided XP works great and they won't pay $400 to upgrade. They'll wait until they need a new computer.

[Asher]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Spin is part of the game for any public company. SOP.

Yes, Agathon is well aware of that.

For instance, MS goes down 6% and it's a "pounding", Apple goes down 40% and it's blamed entirely on the downturn in the economy. He also neglects to mention that Microsoft just posted record 3rd quarter revenue. They only made $4.4B in profit in the last 3 months (this is 4x Apple's), it's awesome how bad they're doing!!

The only thing Agathon knows is spin, -Jrabbit...

[Wiglaf]

PEBKAC :ANGRY:

[Asher]

WELL SAID.

[-Jrabbit]

I must say, I'm really starting to enjoy our time together in these threads, Asher. You've dialed down some of your rhetoric, I get to pick up a few factoids... it's all good.

[Wiglaf]

Wow, you're gayer than I thought. He's spent most of this thread bashing Agathon and making up things he said.

[Asher]

You have to admit I'm charming.

[-Jrabbit]

Actually, I'm bi.
Mac or PC.

[Asher]

groan

[Wiglaf]

Originally posted by Asher
You have to admit I'm charming.

Medusa and the hooker ninjas in the Shogunite period who lured generals to the tops of buildings and threw them over were charming too. Only you will not kill me or turn me to stone, I see through you like white on rice.