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  • DC Madam -- Now in the Navy

    Really interesting stuff. One of those involved is a navy officer... surprisingly, as one of the call girls rather than a john.

    By the way, Preston Burton should know better than to ask somebody an open-ended question on cross. He stuck his foot in it. Big time.

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    Navy Officer Says She Was Call Girl for Palfrey in 2004

    By Paul Duggan
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Thursday, April 10, 2008; 2:22 PM

    A Navy officer testified in federal court today that she moonlighted as a call girl for Deborah Jeane Palfrey's escort service in 2004, when the military says she was assigned to the Naval Academy as a supply officer.

    Lt. Cmdr. Rebecca C. Dickinson, 38, whom the Navy says has been placed on leave "pending further administrative action" by the military, told a jury in U.S. District Court that she used the name "Renee" while having sex for money with male clients of Palfrey's now-defunct firm, Pamela Martin & Associates.

    Dickinson, who joined the Navy as an enlisted sailor in 1986 and was commissioned an officer in 1993, after graduating from Auburn University, was the 13th admitted ex-call girl to testify since Tuesday in the government's case against Palfrey, who is charged with racketeering and money laundering.

    Like the other women, she testified that Palfrey sent her to an initial encounter with a client as a test to see how she would perform. She said she met the client at his Howard County home and after some small talk, "we began to have sexual relations."

    Palfrey, 52, says she was unaware that the escorts she employed were having sex for money. She contends her business was a "high-end erotic fantasy service" that allowed men to engage in legal, "quasi-sexual" game-playing.

    All the women were forced to testify by prosecutors after being granted immunity that prevents them from invoking their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. Authorities learned their names from records seized in a search of Palfrey's home in northern California.

    A Navy lieutenant commander is equivalent in rank to an Army major. After being commissioned, the Navy said, Dickinson attended the Navy's supply corps school and served on ships and at military installations in Pennsylvania, Virginia and Georgia until she was transferred to Annapolis in September 2004.

    Most of the 13 admitted prostitutes' current occupations are unclear. Dickinson, though, was the second ex-call girl whose legitimate professional background has been revealed.

    Yesterday, the jury heard testimony from Rhona Reiss, now 63, a former director of education for the American Occupational Therapy Association.

    Reiss, now retired from both her former professions, did not explain her illicit career choice. Like the others, she signed a contract with Palfrey pledging to abide by the law -- a document that prosecutors allege was a sham intended to give Palfrey deniability.

    Defense lawyer Preston Burton has brought up the contract repeatedly in questioning the government's witnesses, pointing out clause No. 5: "Individuals caught performing illegal activities of any nature will be terminated."

    When he raised the issue with Reiss, showing her the document and her signature, she told him, "I didn't sign any agreement saying I wouldn't do anything illegal." In her parsing of the clause, Reiss said, the rule technically did not prohibit illegal activity.

    Burton seemed surprised.

    "You're an educated woman," he said. "How did you understand it?

    She didn't pause.

    "Don't get caught."
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    So these were pretty successful women, who signed on to be prostitutes...

    Hmm, I don't understand it.

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    • #3
      When he raised the issue with Reiss, showing her the document and her signature, she told him, "I didn't sign any agreement saying I wouldn't do anything illegal." In her parsing of the clause, Reiss said, the rule technically did not prohibit illegal activity.

      Burton seemed surprised.

      "You're an educated woman," he said. "How did you understand it?

      She didn't pause.

      "Don't get caught."




      Yep, what a moron Burton is.
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      • #4
        Have you ever considered that some women might enjoy being prostitutes?

        It's likely these women were paid in the 1000$+ range for each night's work. Now add on the ego boost from knowing that men are willing to sacrifice that much to **** you and the fact that being a high-paid prostitute is probably a sexual fantasy for a significant minority of women.

        It's not at all surprising. If prostitution wasn't illegal you'd likely see a lot more of this type of prostitution ring. I bet that the rich clients who purchase these services as well as the smart, pretty women who provide them are more likely to respond to the criminal and social consequences of getting caught than street hookers are.
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        • #5
          Some women might. I cannot divine such things, even if I find it fascinating.

          If it's for the money, these educated women have to know that Preston Burton is getting paid lots more than they were for a night's work.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #6
            She gave up a promising career in the Navy - Lt. Cdr. isn't exactly a low rank - to have sex on call. Sure, I have no doubt that she chose it voluntarily - maybe gambling debts, I guess, at worst, but those are still voluntary in my book - but it's still **** dumb.

            Further, I suggest that it's a dumb idea for a man to suggest he has any ability to divine the opinions of women in anything sexual. The divergence between 'logical assumptions based on experience' and 'reality' is pretty significant in the realm of women and sexual relations...
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            • #7
              Originally posted by snoopy369
              She gave up a promising career in the Navy - Lt. Cdr. isn't exactly a low rank - to have sex on call. Sure, I have no doubt that she chose it voluntarily - maybe gambling debts, I guess, at worst, but those are still voluntary in my book - but it's still **** dumb.
              a) Your hypothesis about gambling debts is pure speculation.

              b) If you hadn't noticed, I did make the point that people with successful careers were likely to be more deterred by the thought of losing their "real jobs" or going to jail. But there are some people who like taking risks. Maybe she's one of them. Maybe she convinced herself she wouldn't get caught.

              c) My main point is that it's pure folly to assume that no woman would choose to be a prostitute unless they were "forced" into it by circumstances. Women like sex too. And some women like anonymous sex with multiple strangers. And some women would like to get paid large sums of money for anonymous sex with multiple strangers. I don't find it that strange. There are a lot weirder kinks than that out there. For instance, I've known multiple women who had rape/abuse fantasies (and were not being affected by some prior traumatic experience AFAIK).
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              • #8
                I think you would be surprised by how many otherwise "normal" successful women would choose to do this if they knew they wouldn't get caught...
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                • #9
                  It is pure speculation, as I specifically said it's the worst likely case for this situation.

                  I don't think anyone believes that NO woman chooses to be a prostitute. I do think that it's more complex than you think, and many have complex reasons for their choices.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DanS
                    If it's for the money, these educated women have to know that Preston Burton is getting paid lots more than they were for a night's work.
                    Just because Lindsay Lohan gets paid more than 1000$ a night doesn't mean I wouldn't **** her for 1000$.
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                    • #11
                      Those damn Supply Officers

                      Lt. Cdr. isn't exactly a low rank
                      You get your first look at O-4 at nine years.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by snoopy369
                        It is pure speculation, as I specifically said it's the worst likely case for this situation.

                        I don't think anyone believes that NO woman chooses to be a prostitute. I do think that it's more complex than you think, and many have complex reasons for their choices.
                        Human sexuality is a complex thing. I don't particularly approve of the notion that female sexuality is more complex than male sexuality. Some women enjoy being hookers. Some guys enjoy ****ing two women at a time. If you don't need a complex explanation for one then I don't think you need one for the other.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                          Just because Lindsay Lohan gets paid more than 1000$ a night doesn't mean I wouldn't **** her for 1000$.
                          Touche. But I'm afraid to say that she's devolved into a lesser being.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #14
                            Further, I suggest that it's a dumb idea for a man to suggest he has any ability to divine the opinions of women in anything sexual.


                            Spoken like a man who still hasn't figured out that women aren't that complicated...
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DanS


                              Touche. But I'm afraid to say that she's devolved into a lesser being.
                              Dead by 25....
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