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Originally posted by Ramo
No, he's not. It's a spending limit. It doesn't work that way.
No, he's not. It's a spending limit. It doesn't work that way.
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Absolutely no proof that he broke any spending limit. Every left wing partisan rag is screaming about him raising more than he was supposedly allowed to.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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Yay, so two politicians who claim to be all about straight talk are actually into doublespeak.
Wow, I'm really surprised.
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Besides the last publicly available report that he submitted to the FEC?
I don't know what anonymous "left wing partisan rags" say, but the legal issue here has to to do with a spending limit."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Here are the left wing partisans known as the Associated Press:
McCain has now spent $58.4 million in his primary bid, surpassing the $50 million limit he would have faced if he participated in the public financing system he had been certified to join. McCain has decided not to accept the public matching funds, but the FEC wants him to assure regulators that he did not use the promise of public money as collateral for a $4 million loan.
McCain and his lawyers said the loan was secured with other collateral, thus freeing him to spend as much money as he wishes on his primary campaign. The Democratic National Committee has filed a complaint with the FEC arguing McCain cannot withdraw from the public finance system without FEC approval.
As I was saying the more straight forward legal problem here has to do with using public financing to qualify for ballot access in many states."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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I think that's under the assumption that that candidate is primarily funded by large donors. Obama's campaign is much more funded by small donors than the other candidates, especially McBush. Now that's real democracy in action there. So the initial reasons for public finance don't apply here, and that's exactly his argument.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
One of the reasons for public financing is to eliminate vast disparities in spending ability among the candidates so all candidates in the system have a roughly equal ability to be heard and give the voters a fair choice.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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McCain never accepted any public funds and the loan was collateralized with a list of donors rather than promises of future public funds, so how could he break a spending limit that didn't apply to him?“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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McCain has now spent $58.4 million in his primary bid, surpassing the $50 million limit he would have faced if he participated in the public financing system he had been certified to join.
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I think that's under the assumption that that candidate is primarily funded by large donors.
No it isn't. It's the acknowledgment that vast disparities in money hinder the political process, regardless of who is actually giving.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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You don't really know what the word means, do you?Originally posted by Arrian
doublespeak.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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No, I think he's quite aware... you on the other hand...
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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By being a Republican, obviously.so how could he break a spending limit that didn't apply to him?
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Isn't it the Dems who have refused to man the board that was supposed to be there to allow candidates to leave the public system if they wanted to?
And you think that signals corruption on McCain's part?"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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1. I'm pretty sure that has to do with a different loan. Source, please.McCain never accepted any public funds and the loan was collateralized with a list of donors rather than promises of future public funds, so how could he break a spending limit that didn't apply to him?
2. And for the third time, the most straightforward legal issue here has to do with his using public financing to get ballot access in OH and other states (and ballot access can get very expensive).
McCain broke the law. The only reason he's not being called on it is that the FEC doesn't have quorum."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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And Bush.Isn't it the Dems who have refused to man the board that was supposed to be there to allow candidates to leave the public system if they wanted to?
Who, exactly, claimed this?And you think that signals corruption on McCain's part?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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The purpose of political process is to elect the most popular candidate. How is accepting donations from more people than your opponent hindering the political process?Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I think that's under the assumption that that candidate is primarily funded by large donors.
No it isn't. It's the acknowledgment that vast disparities in money hinder the political process, regardless of who is actually giving.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Bull**** Imran. I'm just telling you his argument. You obviously don't understand it or something. Obama is saying that the way his campaign was financed "injected democracy" into the process. How the hell is that doublespeak?Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
No, I think he's quite aware... you on the other hand...
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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