Why do conservatives think that...

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Caligastia


Only a small percentage have entirely European ancestry, and those aren't the ones who want to immigrate. The vast majority are either Amerindian or a mix of the two. But "massive non-white immigration" includes more than just Mexicans.



The cultural differences are/were similarly large, but much else has changed. 1910 Italians didn't have welfare programs or bilingual education, and they also didn't view large sections of the U.S. as rightfully theirs.

By the way, I'm just going to go ahead and save this post for posterity.

[Whoha]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


So I'm not white either?

I'd say it depends on how one identifies himself. In the past Mexicans were considered white, and considered themselves white(in the US, Mexico is a different story), but that has changed.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


So I'm not white either?

Dunno, what mix are you? "White" is not a strictly defined group.

I couldn't tell you what percentage of mixed Mexicans would pass for white, but most of the immigration from Mexico has been of the non-white variety, which is why I count it as non-white immigration.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


By the way, I'm just going to go ahead and save this post for posterity.

Really? Where will you save it?

[KrazyHorse]

Cali

How the **** do you know how much of each Mexican is Spanish and how much is Amerindian?

I truly doubt that there's anybody on the ****ing planet who has good numbers on that.

As for myself, I'm either 1/8 or 1/16 Iroquois depending on who you ask. And so are a hell of a lot of your "WASP" American friends. Not to mention a decent portion of them who have some black ancestry too.

But I guess because the European part started out super-white (English, Scottish, Irish, German) they're allowed to mix in some non-white parts and they still come out as white as (or whiter than) a purebred Southern European, right?

[Whoha]

Re: Cali

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
I truly doubt that there's anybody on the ****ing planet who has good numbers on that.

The Spanish, and then Mexican government used to keep meticulous records of such things. Today however they consider all of the underclass equally worthless.

[Caligastia]

Re: Cali

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
How the **** do you know how much of each Mexican is Spanish and how much is Amerindian?

I truly doubt that there's anybody on the ****ing planet who has good numbers on that.

You're right, there's no way of knowing exactly, but most of the Mexican immigrants to the U.S. plainly have a significant percentage of Amerindian ancestry. This makes them non-white in just about everyone's eyes.

As for myself, I'm either 1/8 or 1/16 Iroquois depending on who you ask. And so are a hell of a lot of your "WASP" American friends. Not to mention a decent portion of them who have some black ancestry too.

OMG! Excuse me while I scrub myself feverishly for a few hours in the shower.

Big effing deal. So you have a small percentage of non-European ancestry. I guess that means you can flaunt your "mixed" status...hey, maybe you could own a casino without paying any taxes. You know, to make up for all the oppression.

But I guess because the European part started out super-white (English, Scottish, Irish, German) they're allowed to mix in some non-white parts and you still come out as white as a purebred Southern European, right?

The "racial purity" of my friends doesn't concern me in the least...are you honestly shocked?

[KrazyHorse]

Re: Re: Cali

Originally posted by Caligastia


You're right, there's no way of knowing exactly, but most of the Mexican immigrants to the U.S. plainly have a significant percentage of Amerindian ancestry

Latitude of Mexico City: 19 degrees North
Latitude of Madrid: 40 degrees North

[KrazyHorse]

Re: Re: Cali

Originally posted by Caligastia

Big effing deal. So you have a small percentage of non-European ancestry.

And how much do you think the average Mexican immigrant has? And where do you get that number?

[Caligastia]

Re: Re: Re: Cali

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Latitude of Mexico City: 19 degrees North
Latitude of Madrid: 40 degrees North

My bad, the people must obviously be very similar.

And how much do you think the average Mexican immigrant has? And where do you get that number?

I don't have a number, but non-European racial characteristics are clearly visible. Shockingly, this is why most people don't see them as white.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ramo

Yes, it's a good thing all cultures are equal.

No, Northern European food is remarkably ****ty, absent other cultural influences. But I'm ok with them staying despite such a terrible flaw.

Belgium waffles

[snoopy369]

White Mexicans and non-white Mexicans are easily distinguishable. Watch a Mexican newscast, for example; the news anchors tend to be White Mexicans. There is a substantial degree of racism in Mexico against non-white Mexicans, which make up the majority of the country and nearly all of the underclass (ie, the folks who come up here). In most pure hispanics (by that I mean non-interbred with mongrel Americans) you can tell which region they came from because the different tribes had very different characteristics.

[Patroklos]

Mexicans, the ones in Mexico at least, are acutely aware of who has European ancestry and who doesn't. If I could read Spanish, I am sure the statistics would be easy enough to find.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by snoopy369
In most pure hispanics (by that I mean non-interbred with mongrel Americans) you can tell which region they came from because the different tribes had very different characteristics.

That's pretty interesting...are there any websites that detail this or are you just speaking from experience?

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Mexicans, the ones in Mexico at least, are acutely aware of who has European ancestry and who doesn't. If I could read Spanish, I am sure the statistics would be easy enough to find.

Nope, sorry Pat, they are all white.


P.S. YOU RACIST!