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  • #76
    Originally posted by Alexander I
    I must regretfully inform you that the term "fundamentalist Mormon" is an oxymoron.

    In addition, I am quite proudly an Oxy-Mormon.
    I'm not calling them Fundimentalists. They call themselves "Fundamental Mormons".

    Edit: Here's a reuter's article from last year. http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...27314820070612
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Oerdin


      I'm not calling them Fundimentalists. They call themselves "Fundamental Mormons".

      Edit: Here's a reuter's article from last year. http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...27314820070612
      I read the article. Is that your source for their supposedly calling themselves "fundamental Mormons?" The only ones calling them that in that article would be the Reuters writers.

      (Can you say "Reuters writers" ten times fast?)
      The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
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      • #78
        No it isn't the only source. Just Google Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS). They're a well known group which goes way back. Essentially they're the Mormons who didn't want to give up on polygamy.

        People call them Fundamental Mormons to diferentiate them from regular Mormons but they're still, for all intents, Mormons.
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        • #79
          Originally posted by Oerdin
          The Fundamental Mormons differ only in that they held on to polygamy while the LDS did not. That's the only real difference.
          The LDS church is progressive, meaning that it lives in the current day. It always has, from the very beginning. In contrast, the FLDS are regressive, meaning that they follow standards no longer acceptable, such as: marrying girls at a young age, dressing in clothing from the 1850's, keeping the mindset that women are submissive to men, living in isolation from the outside world, etc.

          These are all things that the LDS church does not agree with in any way. Also, over the years of separation many changes have occurred within the FLDS organization. Key principles and beliefs have been altered or skewed in such a way that when you get into it, it's not even recognizable as a "Mormon" church.

          One key difference between the two religions is the treatment of women. The LDS church's Relief Society is one of the world's oldest and largest women's philanthropic organizations, if not the oldest and largest. Women are held in the greatest regard. By contrast, in the FLDS church women are degraded, forced to marry against their wills, abused, submissive to men, etc.

          I don't know about you, but I consider this a MAJOR difference.
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          • #80
            No one has claimed they FLDS represents the LDS.

            You were whining that people calling them Mormons when in fact "Fundamental Mormon" is the correct official name. I referred to them as a Mormon sect which is factual and correct.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by Oerdin
              They're a well known group which goes way back. Essentially they're the Mormons who didn't want to give up on polygamy.
              This I know. However, since the term "Mormon" is a nickname specifically for members of the original Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and since the original founders of the FLDS were excommunicated back in the day for their diversion from mainstream LDS doctrines, and since most if not all of these modern FLDS have never been LDS, it is inappropriate to call them Mormon.

              The correct term is "polygamous sect" or FLDS. There is no such thing as a "Mormon sect" just like there is no such thing as a "Catholic sect." You disagree with official church doctrine and you're out.
              Last edited by Alexander I; April 13, 2008, 12:35.
              The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
              "God has given no greater spur to victory than contempt of death." - Hannibal Barca, c. 218 B.C.
              "We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
              The Kingdom of Jerusalem: Chronicles of the Golden Cross - a Crusader Kings After Action Report

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Oerdin
                No one has claimed they FLDS represents the LDS.
                The media's been trying to force the FLDS on us ever since Romney began running for president.

                Originally posted by Oerdin
                You were whining that people calling them Mormons when in fact "Fundamental Mormon" is the correct official name. I referred to them as a Mormon sect which is factual and correct.
                The term "Mormon" also applies especially to people who believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

                Read Jacob Chapter 2 from the Book of Mormon and tell me that the FLDS believe and practice that.

                Rather, I think you'll find they have that scripture highlighted with their black sharpie highlighter pen.
                The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
                "God has given no greater spur to victory than contempt of death." - Hannibal Barca, c. 218 B.C.
                "We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
                The Kingdom of Jerusalem: Chronicles of the Golden Cross - a Crusader Kings After Action Report

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Wezil
                  Guns and God has been a popular combination in the US for a long time.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Cartimandua


                    Well the Protestants were originally Catholic. Martin Luther was even a Catholic priest. So following your above logic, can we not also say that the Protestants are Catholic?

                    I don't think the Protestants or the Catholics would agree to your line of reasoning.
                    Protestants are a Catholic sect.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Kidicious


                      Are you an Obama Boy?
                      Only if I get a night with the Obama Girl.
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Cartimandua


                        Well the Protestants were originally Catholic. Martin Luther was even a Catholic priest. So following your above logic, can we not also say that the Protestants are Catholic?
                        Wrong comparison. It's more like this:

                        The Catholic Church claims that it's the one true Christian faith. The Protestants break away from the Catholic Church. Are they still Christian? Of course they are.

                        Now, for "Catholic Church" substitute LDS; for "Protestants" substitute "FLDS"; for "Christian" substitute "Mormon." And there you go.
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                        • #87
                          LDS is a brand name. "Mormon" is the generic for people who believe that the Book of Mormon is inspired text.

                          The FLDS is the Pepsi to the LDS' Coke, but they're both colas.
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                          • #88
                            Um... for "Christian" substitute "Christian"... because LDS (and FLDS) are Christian sects.

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                            • #89
                              The media's been trying to force the FLDS on us ever since Romney began running for president.


                              As much as I dislike a lot of things about the LDS I wouldn't try to hang the FLDS on them and I don't think other rational people are either. But you're both Mormons.

                              Hey, Fred Phelps s a Christian. I don't blame the pope for him.
                              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                              Stadtluft Macht Frei
                              Killing it is the new killing it
                              Ultima Ratio Regum

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                                Hey, Fred Phelps s a Christian. I don't blame the pope for him.
                                Exactly.
                                "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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